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The Next Generation All Good Things come to an end...but not here.

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Old September 17 2013, 02:29 AM   #61
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God, no. It'd be as sad as a Brady Bunch holiday reunion movie.
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Old September 17 2013, 05:34 PM   #62
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I know it's kind of fanboyish, but it would be neat to see a miniseries or two-hour special which combines characters from TNG, DS9, and Voyager and introduces us to the adventures of a new cast and crew.
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Old September 17 2013, 06:12 PM   #63
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Kicking off a series like that... cool. Ending a series with characters from the other show stealing the spotlight... boneheaded. I'm looking at you TATV.
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Old September 17 2013, 06:50 PM   #64
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I'd like to see Worf as captain. A new crew. Old crew can make cameos. New people working on the show.

At first I was thinking it could work like the Perry Mason movies of the 80s/90s but TNG really wasn't very good with 2-parters or movies.
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Old September 17 2013, 06:55 PM   #65
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I'd like to see Worf as captain. A new crew. Old crew can make cameos. New people working on the show.
I am so sick of Worf, one of the reasons I no longer buy the TNG novels. There's a point where you can simply use a character too much and after nearly three-hundred episodes and four films, Worf is a character that has been used too much.
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Old September 17 2013, 07:36 PM   #66
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Well I haven't read any of the novels and he didn't get much to do in the movies. I'm not tired of Worf.
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Old September 17 2013, 09:42 PM   #67
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I am so sick of Worf, one of the reasons I no longer buy the TNG novels. There's a point where you can simply use a character too much and after nearly three-hundred episodes and four films, Worf is a character that has been used too much.
The writers always got stuck in the "You/he/she/they is/are without honor!" rut that made the character so uninteresting to me.
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Old September 17 2013, 09:50 PM   #68
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Worf's an average character, and got the short end of the stick in the movies(cliche lines and comic relief), but he had 11 seasons of regular development, and frankly I think most of his potential has been realized. If there's to be a new series, it shouldn't be centered on him.
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Old September 18 2013, 12:23 AM   #69
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Worf's an average character, and got the short end of the stick in the movies(cliche lines and comic relief), but he had 11 seasons of regular development, and frankly I think most of his potential has been realized. If there's to be a new series, it shouldn't be centered on him.
I think he had a lot more potential than just the "Honor! Honor! Honor!" we mostly got. (Thanks a heap, Ron Moore.) There were glimpses of some of the potential in some episodes, like when he was willing to let the Romulan captive die much to Picard's dismay, or in "Redemption" when after Kurn told him it was the Klingon way to kill his enemy after his enemy's defeat he told Kurn, "I know, but it is not my way." By the time of the films, they just gave up entirely. A shame, really, as Worf could have been a much more important character in the films.
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Old September 18 2013, 01:24 AM   #70
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Worf's an average character, and got the short end of the stick in the movies(cliche lines and comic relief), but he had 11 seasons of regular development, and frankly I think most of his potential has been realized. If there's to be a new series, it shouldn't be centered on him.
I think he had a lot more potential than just the "Honor! Honor! Honor!" we mostly got. (Thanks a heap, Ron Moore.) There were glimpses of some of the potential in some episodes, like when he was willing to let the Romulan captive die much to Picard's dismay, or in "Redemption" when after Kurn told him it was the Klingon way to kill his enemy after his enemy's defeat he told Kurn, "I know, but it is not my way." By the time of the films, they just gave up entirely. A shame, really, as Worf could have been a much more important character in the films.
I'll agree there. Him letting the Romulan die was one of the most "woah!" moments in TNG I can remember. To me Worf was the outsider, who read up on Klingon ways and customs, but at the core never understood how they behaved and adopted human core values no matter how much he projected his Klingon exterior. Had they explored that side more, it would've been cool but yeah... Worf as is, is just a case of overcompensation.
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Old September 18 2013, 03:20 AM   #71
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Stewart does voices on Family Guy and is a very regular character on American Dad.
Let's not forget National Car Rental commercials!

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Heck, my 57 year old mother liked TNG so much that she asked me a couple weeks ago "I just got to season four of DS9, what should I watch next?" (She said she was going to skip Voyager. I've never been so proud of her.)
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I think he had a lot more potential than just the "Honor! Honor! Honor!" we mostly got. (Thanks a heap, Ron Moore.) There were glimpses of some of the potential in some episodes, like when he was willing to let the Romulan captive die much to Picard's dismay, or in "Redemption" when after Kurn told him it was the Klingon way to kill his enemy after his enemy's defeat he told Kurn, "I know, but it is not my way."
You know that Ron Moore wrote your second example, right?

I was going to offer that Worf could only work if they got Ron Moore back to write him....
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Old September 18 2013, 04:07 PM   #72
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You know that Ron Moore wrote your second example, right?
Yes. There was certainly potential there, but potential that was rarely ever realized as Moore kept writing the Klingons as one-note.
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Old September 22 2013, 12:57 AM   #73
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As I said in the other thread, as much as I would love to see more TNG, I just think it wouldn't work without Data and Spiner looks too old for the part now
That's true for all the characters, and that's why I'd prefer an animated series as opposed to a live action one.
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Old September 22 2013, 05:09 AM   #74
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I think a TNG-like series could be very successful right now.

With modern characters. Not with a bunch of already well-traveled characters in their 60s.
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Old September 24 2013, 03:58 PM   #75
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That article was nothing bit a huge pile of wishful thinking and a lack of perspective.

"One movie every few years isn't cutting it for the fans"? Trek is still trying to pull itself together after the doldrums of the Berman years. Is it in better shape than it was pre-2009? Yes. But after a decade+ of oversaturation, can you blame CBS/Paramount for playing it safer at the moment? (Also, Trek did perfectly fine with doing a movie every few years before TNG came along.)

Also, you've got years' worth of reruns and movies, comic books, tie-in novels, and at some point we'll probably see TNG-based fan-film episodes. It's not like there's a shortage of product available. Trek is supposed to be entertainment, not an addiction CBS/Paramount can't keep pace with.

"Most of the cast would come back"? Um...why? They've aged out of the roles and moved on with their lives. I seriously question if they'd honestly want to go back and do it again.

Finally...how would bringing back TNG help the franchise? How would it have any appeal to mainstream audiences at this point? Nobody's ever willing to address this problem. In fact, it's pretty telling that every proposal to "save" Trek amounts to backpedaling and making the franchise a nerd ghetto piece again. I mean, a rebooted version of TNG might be possible (it's the only version of Trek that has enough staying power to hold pace with the original series), but going back and carrying on as if nothing ever ended? That would be a recipe for failure.

Rolling Stone couldn't be more wrong if it tried. If anything, all they did was underscore how dumb the idea really is, and how there's no chance of it ever happening.
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