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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 144 19.25%
A 161 21.52%
A- 101 13.50%
B+ 83 11.10%
B 58 7.75%
B- 27 3.61%
C+ 40 5.35%
C 38 5.08%
C- 25 3.34%
D+ 11 1.47%
D 13 1.74%
D- 10 1.34%
F 37 4.95%
Voters: 748. You may not vote on this poll

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Old September 17 2013, 05:54 PM   #4771
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tl;dr
huh?!?
too long;didn't read
Thanks. Too bad they didn't read it...excellent article.
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Old September 17 2013, 07:21 PM   #4772
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I mean honestly, did they for one second think this (ending) would be widely accepted by the trek community? … or was paying homage?
According to surveys like the one at the top of this thread, it has been widely accepted.
I think if they hadn't done that this movie would be wildy popular.

Thanks for reading and commenting on my post. I thought I was being ignored there.
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Old September 17 2013, 07:27 PM   #4773
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I think if they hadn't done that this movie would be wildy popular.


It is.
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Old September 17 2013, 07:30 PM   #4774
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I think if they hadn't done that this movie would be wildy popular.


It is.
Yup, but look at his sig, the power of All Caps and Smilies, on something trivial. Someones not happy.
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Old September 17 2013, 07:35 PM   #4775
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Conflict & Drama for Dummies

(Star Trek Into Darkness, as understood by my friend, writer Kay Reindl)
It's funny, STID actually gave her something to, you know - that thing dissenters say NUTrek doesn't allow you do - think about. I'd say her thought processors are fully functional.
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Old September 17 2013, 08:33 PM   #4776
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It's funny, STID actually gave her something to, you know - that thing dissenters say NUTrek doesn't allow you do - think about. I'd say her thought processors are fully functional.
While I can't speak for others, I have never claimed that NuTrek doesn't ALLOW us to think. I've said it doesn't it LIKE IT when we think, because then nothing makes sense.

Shocker – I won't be buying the DVD which makes this the first Star Trek movie EVER that I won't own.

Here's my take on the DVD: The 800 Pound Gorilla
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Old September 17 2013, 08:43 PM   #4777
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^You do know that TNG used a similar "subspace transporter" for exactly one episode ("Bloodlines") and then completely forgot about it?

And that transwarp beaming was written out of Trek (in this timeline at least) in this film anyway - confiscated from Scotty by Section 31 whose R+D facility in London was then destroyed.
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Old September 17 2013, 08:52 PM   #4778
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Shocker – I won't be buying the DVD which makes this the first Star Trek movie EVER that I won't own.

Here's my take on the DVD: The 800 Pound Gorilla
I disagree with your blog.

The transwarp transporter makes starships no more obsolete than the transporter makes shuttles obsolete.
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Old September 17 2013, 08:56 PM   #4779
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^You do know that TNG used a similar "subspace transporter" for exactly one episode ("Bloodlines") and then completely forgot about it?

And that transwarp beaming was written out of Trek (in this timeline at least) in this film anyway - confiscated from Scotty by Section 31 whose R+D facility in London was then destroyed.
And that prevents Scotty from using it on the Enterprise transporters how exactly? Or any transporter he uses, because it was just a formula he had to type in.
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Old September 17 2013, 09:00 PM   #4780
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I wish I could instantly memorize long strings of computer code
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Old September 17 2013, 09:02 PM   #4781
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Because S31 confiscated it then made its use by anyone else illegal?
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Old September 17 2013, 09:04 PM   #4782
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I wish I could instantly memorize long strings of computer code
It's a formula he has been working on already, Spock only gave him the final hints he would have found out anyways in the future. He surely would remember it.

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Because S31 confiscated it then made its use by anyone else illegal?
Again, how would that stop Scotty from using it on the Enterprise when he needs to. A) anyways, B) after they got rid of Admiral Marcus and it became clear that Section 31 was illegal itself.
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Old September 17 2013, 09:10 PM   #4783
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I'm not trying to pick on you, neoworx...

Star Trek shouldn't be easy. Our heroes shouldn't be able to get out of situations via magic technology or magic blood or magic screenplays. They should win because they are smarter, more capable and more determined than their opponent. Trick transporters bely that.
Aren't all transporters, "trick transporters"? Working and broken whenever the story requires them to be. Isn't that part of the reason behind the Prime Directive? To keep our heroes from just being able to disappear whenever a situation becomes too dangerous for them to handle?

Transporters are miracle workers in the Prime timeline as well. Need kids restored to their adult selves? Pull out the transporter trace. Need to save your doctor from a rampant aging disease? Grab some DNA and rebuild her body from scratch using the transporter.
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Old September 17 2013, 09:18 PM   #4784
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A) Scott is law abiding. B) I do not see what use it would have been after [Khan] got rid of Marcus...
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Old September 17 2013, 09:22 PM   #4785
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I wish I could instantly memorize long strings of computer code
It's a formula he has been working on already, Spock only gave him the final hints he would have found out anyways in the future. He surely would remember it.
Old Spock with surely could, but Scotty would probably have to refer to countless old notes and files in order to reconstruct it - all of which I'm sure were confiscated.

I'm assuming there's a little more to it than left, right, left, right, B, A, START.
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