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View Poll Results: Which series do you miss most?
Stargazer 2 2.17%
SCE/CoE 22 23.91%
IKS Gorkon/Klingon Empire 20 21.74%
Vanguard 27 29.35%
New Frontier 25 27.17%
Myriad Universes 23 25.00%
Mirror Universe 5 5.43%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 92. You may not vote on this poll

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Old September 14 2013, 04:49 PM   #61
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^All the Myriad Universes installments were short novels, not novellas. They averaged around 50,000 words, and anything over 40,000 is generally considered novel-length.
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Old September 14 2013, 11:54 PM   #62
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Can we please, bloody please, get Dan Abnett to write a Pike novel?
I'd buy that.

Any particular reason you picked Abnett, though, aside from just liking his writing? Has he expressed an interest in this or something?
Uhm, because he's already written Pike. While I'm a fan of his writing in general (especially his Guardians of the Galaxy and related work with Andy Lanning at Marvel), I make the suggestion mostly because co-authored the 17 issues of Marvel's Early Voyages comic, along with several issues of Star Trek Unlimited. Early Voyages is arguably the greatest Trek comic series ever published, and certainly the best of Marvel's output.

In fact, given his knowledge of Trek, and his rather prolific career as a sci-fi tie-in writer, I've always been rather surprised he hasn't done a Trek novel to date.
I didn't know that - thanks.

I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done a Trek novel, too. Most of the really prolific multi-universe tie-in authors have, at some point.
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Old September 15 2013, 01:22 AM   #63
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I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done a Trek novel, too. Most of the really prolific multi-universe tie-in authors have, at some point.
More than you might think: Karen Traviss, Kevin J. Anderson, Max Allan Collins, Justin Richards, Steven Savile, Craig Shaw Gardner, Christopher Golden, Nancy Holder, Yvonne Navarro, Stacia Deutsch, Donald Bain, Richard Lee Byers, and R.A. Salvatore are all mutli-universe tie-in authors who have never written Star Trek prose fiction. (Golden and Anderson have both written Trek comics, though.)
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Old September 15 2013, 02:15 AM   #64
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I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done a Trek novel, too. Most of the really prolific multi-universe tie-in authors have, at some point.
More than you might think: Karen Traviss, Kevin J. Anderson, Max Allan Collins, Justin Richards, Steven Savile, Craig Shaw Gardner, Christopher Golden, Nancy Holder, Yvonne Navarro, Stacia Deutsch, Donald Bain, Richard Lee Byers, and R.A. Salvatore are all mutli-universe tie-in authors who have never written Star Trek prose fiction. (Golden and Anderson have both written Trek comics, though.)
The fact that those bolded authors have never written anything Trek related is a blessing, based on their output. KJA is the least worse of the two, but I can just imagine the rage knowledgeable TrekLit fans would unleash if they heard Travissty was going to publish a Trek story.
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Old September 15 2013, 02:57 AM   #65
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I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done a Trek novel, too. Most of the really prolific multi-universe tie-in authors have, at some point.
More than you might think: Karen Traviss, Kevin J. Anderson, Max Allan Collins, Justin Richards, Steven Savile, Craig Shaw Gardner, Christopher Golden, Nancy Holder, Yvonne Navarro, Stacia Deutsch, Donald Bain, Richard Lee Byers, and R.A. Salvatore are all mutli-universe tie-in authors who have never written Star Trek prose fiction. (Golden and Anderson have both written Trek comics, though.)
The fact that those bolded authors have never written anything Trek related is a blessing, based on their output. KJA is the least worse of the two, but I can just imagine the rage knowledgeable TrekLit fans would unleash if they heard Travissty was going to publish a Trek story.
I think you missed the point where KRAD noted that KJA wrote a Trek comic... He also wrote co-wrote one of the DS9 young adult books with his wife. So, unfortunately, he has done Trek-related work. I'm just glad he hasn't done any more.
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Old September 15 2013, 10:49 AM   #66
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I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done a Trek novel, too. Most of the really prolific multi-universe tie-in authors have, at some point.
More than you might think: Karen Traviss, Kevin J. Anderson, Max Allan Collins, Justin Richards, Steven Savile, Craig Shaw Gardner, Christopher Golden, Nancy Holder, Yvonne Navarro, Stacia Deutsch, Donald Bain, Richard Lee Byers, and R.A. Salvatore are all mutli-universe tie-in authors who have never written Star Trek prose fiction. (Golden and Anderson have both written Trek comics, though.)
If I'm not totally mistaken Kevin J: Anderson has written Trek prose. AFAIK he has written Highest Score, one of the DS9 young adult novels, with Rebecca Moesta under the pseudonym Kem Antilles.

ETA: Don't know why, but totally missed TF Sinclair's post, where he already pointed this out.
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Old September 15 2013, 05:13 PM   #67
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^ My mistake, I totally forgot that Kevin & Rebecca wrote that one.

My original point still stands. Plenty of multiple-universe tie-in authors who haven't done Trek.....
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Old September 15 2013, 06:08 PM   #68
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^ My mistake, I totally forgot that Kevin & Rebecca wrote that one.

My original point still stands. Plenty of multiple-universe tie-in authors who haven't done Trek.....
Indeed; and I stand corrected.

I actually haven't heard of a few names on your list, though, so there seem to be a lot of tie-in series that I'm not familiar with. Which isn't surprising, but thanks for the correction either way
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Old September 15 2013, 08:33 PM   #69
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I actually haven't heard of a few names on your list, though, so there seem to be a lot of tie-in series that I'm not familiar with. Which isn't surprising, but thanks for the correction either way
You know, I have had the plan to write a guide to tie-in novels for USF for some time now, presenting the different series that are out there. But I just don't find the time to do the necessary research at the moment.
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Old September 16 2013, 03:51 AM   #70
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I can just imagine the rage knowledgeable TrekLit fans would unleash if they heard Travissty was going to publish a Trek story.
Actually, as a life-long Star Wars fan, I think Traviss' books are the best thing to come out of the Prequel era (narrowly beating out the cartoon series), and I for one would love to see what she could do with the Jem'Hadar or the Talarians.
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Old September 16 2013, 06:05 AM   #71
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I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done a Trek novel, too. Most of the really prolific multi-universe tie-in authors have, at some point.
More than you might think: Karen Traviss, Kevin J. Anderson, Max Allan Collins, Justin Richards, Steven Savile, Craig Shaw Gardner, Christopher Golden, Nancy Holder, Yvonne Navarro, Stacia Deutsch, Donald Bain, Richard Lee Byers, and R.A. Salvatore are all mutli-universe tie-in authors who have never written Star Trek prose fiction. (Golden and Anderson have both written Trek comics, though.)
These are the ones I know:
MAC - CSI, Bones, Criminal Minds
Justin Richards - Dr. Who (I think?)
Christopher Golden - Buffy, Hellboy
Nancy Holder - Buffy
Yvonne Navarro - Buffy
R.A. Salvatore - Star Wars, Forgotten Realms (D&D)
Some of the listed authors have probably written for other franchises, but those are the ones that I can think of without checking out Wikipedia or Amazon.
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Old September 16 2013, 06:38 AM   #72
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I can just imagine the rage knowledgeable TrekLit fans would unleash if they heard Travissty was going to publish a Trek story.
Actually, as a life-long Star Wars fan, I think Traviss' books are the best thing to come out of the Prequel era (narrowly beating out the cartoon series), and I for one would love to see what she could do with the Jem'Hadar or the Talarians.
I have the complete opposite opinion of Traviss. She is rather divisive in the Star Wars EU, and I wouldn't want her anywhere near Star Trek.
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Old September 18 2013, 12:21 AM   #73
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I thought most people liked her SW novels?
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Old September 18 2013, 12:46 AM   #74
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From what I've personally seen, a lot of the butthurt comes from her:

A) not caring about pre-established continuity.

B) making the Jedi look like bastards (which, let's face it, they kinda were in the Prequels).

and

C) taking a race of cardboard nobodies and fleshing them out into a complex society with good and bad people who could not be easily categorized.

I'm guessing a Traviss-written Star Trek book would be non-novelverse continuity, would focus on some obscure and barely-seen race, and would include a some morally-ambiguous actions on the part of the Federation/Starfleet --all of which tend to be things we're pretty okay with.
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Old September 18 2013, 02:34 AM   #75
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I thought most people liked her SW novels?
No, I think it's just that the people who don't like her SW novels got drowned out by her fanboys.

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From what I've personally seen, a lot of the butthurt comes from her:

A) not caring about pre-established continuity.

B) making the Jedi look like bastards (which, let's face it, they kinda were in the Prequels).

and

C) taking a race of cardboard nobodies and fleshing them out into a complex society with good and bad people who could not be easily categorized.

I'm guessing a Traviss-written Star Trek book would be non-novelverse continuity, would focus on some obscure and barely-seen race, and would include a some morally-ambiguous actions on the part of the Federation/Starfleet --all of which tend to be things we're pretty okay with.
I don't think people really have a problem with C - I like seeing societies get fleshed out. With B, she pretty much demeaned the Jedi in order to make the (her) Mandalorians look better. And with A, she didn't really have a problem with pre-established continuity - but then George Lucas wanted to bring his version of the Mandalorians to life, and she quit.

But my biggest issue is that she called fans who disagreed with her "Talifans."
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