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Old September 15 2013, 03:40 AM   #241
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Re: concept art and set photos!

Asking 'round re: Toronto and Vancouver's representation on that list. I suspect that places like Sheridan and Algonquin Colleges (Toronto and Ottawa respectively) may be doing some of the training-up of Canadian talent.
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Old September 15 2013, 01:33 PM   #242
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That's the stuff I've been most wanting to see close-up from the movie. Thank you!
You're welcome!
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Old September 15 2013, 02:25 PM   #243
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Re: concept art and set photos!

Huh, so the "shields" in this universe are an actual substance coated to the hull of the ship, that's pretty cool. And explains a lot about the appearance in this universe. I like it.
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Old September 15 2013, 08:35 PM   #244
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Well, that also explains the barrier Khan is behind acting like a solid, where a hole can be moved around.
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Old September 15 2013, 08:42 PM   #245
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Well, that also explains the barrier Khan is behind acting like a solid, where a hole can be moved around.
Matter that reponds to a charge, solid or maliable when needed, I remember that idea being mentioned when the film came out, but looks like they applied it to other parts of the ship too.
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Old September 15 2013, 08:50 PM   #246
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Huh, so the "shields" in this universe are an actual substance coated to the hull of the ship, that's pretty cool. And explains a lot about the appearance in this universe. I like it.
That's what I was thinking. That's new, and it's an interesting concept. Now all they have to do is not screw it up by over explaining it.
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Old September 15 2013, 08:59 PM   #247
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Huh, so the "shields" in this universe are an actual substance coated to the hull of the ship, that's pretty cool. And explains a lot about the appearance in this universe. I like it.
That's what I was thinking. That's new, and it's an interesting concept. Now all they have to do is screwed it up be over explaining it.
They won't, thankfully.
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Old September 15 2013, 09:35 PM   #248
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Er, it was already explained in detail in Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise back in the 80's. That's where Abrams' people got it from, as I pointed out on the last page:
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I dug out my copy of Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise, and sure enough, page 14 is the source of the "diburnium-osmium levels" and percentage on the "shield strength" graphic:

...in this new technology, a coil of diburnium-osmium alloy [a substance created by the lost Kalandan race; discovered on Stardate 5979.2 by the Enterprise crew and recorded by Mr. Spock] was placed within a reinforced titanium/transparent aluminum mount, scanned at the subatomic level, then replicated and prjected as energy at an adjustable point beyond the vessel's outer hull. This energy layer, acting as a solid, in effect became another layer of metal on the ship's exterior. Insulated from the true hull by a small space, the invisible shield was designed to replenish it's "molecular" structure continually for as long as souce energy was available.


Add "That Which Survives" to the list of stuff which has already happened in the Abramsverse.
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Old September 15 2013, 10:12 PM   #249
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Regarding the Spacedock Manifest imagery: I can't begin to describe how exciting it is to see those other ships indicated at the dock!

The smaller constitution-class starship is intriguing, as is the enlongated 'excelsior-esque' starship (smaller ship, below small Connie ship). My curiousity is officially at max!!! Also - the other Nova / Voyager looking starship with the refit-style swept back nacelle struts is an interesting new design.

Interestingly, no sign of the the red-hulled, three-nacelled Armstrong-Class 'Excelsior' starship that was seen when the shuttle flies from earth to the Enterprise at Spacedock... perhaps it arrived after the Marcus office scene with the 'widescreen display'.

Whatever the case, I love seeing more starfleet vessels - and seeing these images is an illuminating experience, particulary in terms of starship-spotting.

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Old September 15 2013, 10:17 PM   #250
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Regarding the Spacedock Manifest imagery: I can't begin to describe how exciting it is to see those other ships indicated at the dock!

The smaller constitution-class starship is intriguing, as is the enlongated 'excelsior-esque' starship (smaller ship, below small Connie ship). My curiousity is officially at max!!! Also - the other Nova / Voyager looking starship with the refit-style swept back nacelle struts is an interesting new design.

Interestingly, no sign of the the red-hulled, three-nacelled Armstrong-Class 'Excelsior' starship that was seen when the shuttle flies from earth to the Enterprise at Spacedock... perhaps it arrived after the Marcus office scene with the 'widescreen display'.

Whatever the case, I love seeing more starfleet vessels - and seeing these images is an illuminating experience, particulary in terms of starship-spotting.

Personal theory: The red hulled ship is a Vulcan ship. Standardize "Starfleet Design" but detached or operated by Vulcan.
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Old September 15 2013, 10:30 PM   #251
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King Daniel Into Darkness wrote: View Post
Er, it was already explained in detail in Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise back in the 80's. That's where Abrams' people got it from, as I pointed out on the last page:
King Daniel Into Darkness wrote: View Post
I dug out my copy of Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise, and sure enough, page 14 is the source of the "diburnium-osmium levels" and percentage on the "shield strength" graphic:

...in this new technology, a coil of diburnium-osmium alloy [a substance created by the lost Kalandan race; discovered on Stardate 5979.2 by the Enterprise crew and recorded by Mr. Spock] was placed within a reinforced titanium/transparent aluminum mount, scanned at the subatomic level, then replicated and prjected as energy at an adjustable point beyond the vessel's outer hull. This energy layer, acting as a solid, in effect became another layer of metal on the ship's exterior. Insulated from the true hull by a small space, the invisible shield was designed to replenish it's "molecular" structure continually for as long as souce energy was available.


Add "That Which Survives" to the list of stuff which has already happened in the Abramsverse.
I think he was talking about a full-blown explanation in a film.
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Old September 15 2013, 10:51 PM   #252
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Ah, ok. Yeah, on-screen it should have the same amount of explanation as the shields in TOS did!
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Old September 15 2013, 11:30 PM   #253
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Re: concept art and set photos!

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Regarding the Spacedock Manifest imagery: I can't begin to describe how exciting it is to see those other ships indicated at the dock!

The smaller constitution-class starship is intriguing, as is the enlongated 'excelsior-esque' starship (smaller ship, below small Connie ship). My curiousity is officially at max!!! Also - the other Nova / Voyager looking starship with the refit-style swept back nacelle struts is an interesting new design.

Interestingly, no sign of the the red-hulled, three-nacelled Armstrong-Class 'Excelsior' starship that was seen when the shuttle flies from earth to the Enterprise at Spacedock... perhaps it arrived after the Marcus office scene with the 'widescreen display'.

Whatever the case, I love seeing more starfleet vessels - and seeing these images is an illuminating experience, particulary in terms of starship-spotting.

Personal theory: The red hulled ship is a Vulcan ship. Standardize "Starfleet Design" but detached or operated by Vulcan.
Yeah - that seems the most likely and best explanation to me. Perhaps helping with the Vulcan refugee operation, operating between earth and the colonies.

So much intrigue!
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Old September 16 2013, 12:23 AM   #254
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I think he was talking about a full-blown explanation in a film.
Precisely

Although, having Scotty complain that a nebula they happen to be passing through is so thick it's "Scraping the shields off the hull." or something wouldn't be so bad.
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Old September 16 2013, 10:14 PM   #255
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Regarding the Spacedock Manifest imagery: I can't begin to describe how exciting it is to see those other ships indicated at the dock!

The smaller constitution-class starship is intriguing, as is the enlongated 'excelsior-esque' starship (smaller ship, below small Connie ship). My curiousity is officially at max!!! Also - the other Nova / Voyager looking starship with the refit-style swept back nacelle struts is an interesting new design.

Interestingly, no sign of the the red-hulled, three-nacelled Armstrong-Class 'Excelsior' starship that was seen when the shuttle flies from earth to the Enterprise at Spacedock... perhaps it arrived after the Marcus office scene with the 'widescreen display'.

Whatever the case, I love seeing more starfleet vessels - and seeing these images is an illuminating experience, particulary in terms of starship-spotting.

I wouldn't be so sure

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