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Old September 15 2013, 04:06 PM   #1306
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

^ @ Christopheras regards the 'weary and tired' point, I did say in my original post that perhaps the end of the movie would see him reinvigorated, so we've sort of come full circle. But it's not just a mental thing - what if he's physically worn out and past his best? Being Batman is more demanding than being Jim Kirk! Still, I suppose its unlikely they'll end it with him hobbling off on a Zimmer frame.

Otherwise, I'm willing to keep an open mind; I hope all of these things are done well, but the execution of MOS does cause me some cynicism about how they handle this movie.
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Old September 15 2013, 04:10 PM   #1307
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^ as regards the weary and tired point, I did say in my original post that perhaps the end of the movie would see him reinvigorated, so we've sort of come full circle. But it's not just a mental thing - what if he's physically worn out and past his best? Being Batman is more demanding than being Jim Kirk! Still, I suppose its unlikely they'll end it with him hobbling off on a Zimmer frame.
I still don't see the problem. The filmmakers are in control of whatever happens in the film. They want a Batman who can carry a franchise, so of course they won't have him physically past his prime.

Although, heck, Nolan had Bruce physically past his prime at the start of TDKR, even had his back broken midway through, and then just handwaved him back into shape in time for the climax. Filmmakers can do whatever they want with their characters, even when it makes no sense.
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Old September 15 2013, 04:15 PM   #1308
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^ True. Time to bring back the magic rope!

Edit - again, come to think of it, in my first post I made the point that we'd just seen a jaded and weary Batman well into his career. More full circle.
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Old September 15 2013, 05:58 PM   #1309
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

The arc of Affleck's Batman will likely be about adjusting his role for a world in which the stakes have risen. To that end, he'd be more useful amongst superhumans for his brains and resources rather than his athletic or fighting abilities.

And I still think it quite likely that they don't intend to spin Affleck's Batman into his own solo series, but just use him as an "established character" in the team franchise (unless they've said otherwise).
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Old September 15 2013, 06:10 PM   #1310
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^I'm inclined to agree with you on the latter point - I've a suspicion that Affleck signed up because he didn't have to top line any solo Batman films (this is based on nothing, before anyone asks, just a hunch) and WB have probably offered him more directing and producing jobs to sweeten the deal. But if his Batman proves popular, I think it's hard to see them not giving him his own movie.
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Old September 15 2013, 06:13 PM   #1311
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Well the blurb says "weary and tired" not old and worn out, I think it's meant as a contrast to the young and green Superman. In the process of them becoming friends Bruce regains some of his vigor and Clark gains some experience.
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Old September 15 2013, 06:33 PM   #1312
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Yeah, I don't get the impression this is a Batman at the end of his career or anything. They just mean that he's been at it awhile, and has probably come to be pretty bitter and cynical about the whole thing.

But he can still kick everyone's ass as well as ever, I'm sure.
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Old September 15 2013, 06:36 PM   #1313
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Yeah, you're probably both right (@ DWF, davejames), I'm probably over-reading into it.
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Old September 15 2013, 07:20 PM   #1314
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Yeah, we shouldn't assume that Batman has one foot in the grave. Think the tough, hard-boiled older cop with the green young rookie . . . .
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Old September 15 2013, 08:02 PM   #1315
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^Just so long as he isn't two weeks from Bat-retirement...
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Old September 15 2013, 08:29 PM   #1316
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^ I'm too old for this sh1t?
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Old September 15 2013, 08:29 PM   #1317
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^Just so long as he isn't two weeks from Bat-retirement...
If he starts quoting Danny Glover from Lethal Weapon...
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Old September 15 2013, 08:32 PM   #1318
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Hmm. I'm imagining a superhero version of THE UNTOUCHABLES, with Sean Connery as Batman and a young Kevin Costner as Superman:

"You want to know how we'll beat Luthor? We'll strike terror into the hearts of criminals, who are a cowardly and superstitious lot. That's the Gotham way . . . . "
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Old September 15 2013, 09:10 PM   #1319
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"Whe he pulls a knife, you pull a batarang."
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Old September 15 2013, 09:27 PM   #1320
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<Points to Kara>

"Is she safe?"

"Well, she'd better be - she's my cousin"
and

Wayne: [piercingly] Where are you from, Kent?
Kent: [smiling] From Smallville.
Wayne: "Kent?" "Clark Kent?" That's your name? What's your real name?
Kent: That is my real name.
Wayne: Nah, what was it before you changed it?
Kent: [his smile fading] Kal of the house of El.
Wayne: I knew it! That's all you need - a murdering kryptonian on the team!
Kent: [offended] What's that you say?
Wayne: I said that you're a lyin' member of a no-good race!
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