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Old September 15 2013, 10:42 AM   #76
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Re: Defending J.J. Abrams (rant) (Spoilers)

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It's just that I don't see TOS as this highly sophisticated, deeply intellectual piece of science fiction art. It's got some good stories, some good commentary about society of the day, some great character relationships, some funny moments, some cheesy moments, some sexy moments, some great action, some crazy aliens.

Yep, STiD is just like TOS.
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Old September 15 2013, 11:12 AM   #77
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Re: Defending J.J. Abrams (rant) (Spoilers)

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On an entertainment level, STID was definitely better than ST 2009. That being said, the franchise is a lot worse off than it was after Nemesis. They've totally ruined Trek, they intent was to replace the original despite their bullshit claim that the prime universe continues. Now they are facing backlash from objective fans, some of the people here are going to kiss abrams ass and stick up for nutrek no matter what but the fact remains that there is a legitimate hatred for this new version of Trek and that feeling isn't going to go away. The best way to deal with paramount and abrams is to speak with your wallets.
The prime universe does continue, in the monthly novels from Pocket books. Speak with your wallet - buy them and read them.
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Old September 15 2013, 11:29 AM   #78
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Re: Defending J.J. Abrams (rant) (Spoilers)

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This board seems to be VERY pro Abrams from what I've read.
More than TrekMovie. There's at least a bit of discussion and reflection here.
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Old September 15 2013, 11:34 AM   #79
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Yeah, but.... transwarp beaming... blue warp nacelles... Khan...
Transwarp beaming really is a pain in the a.. but at least Scotty's formula was confiscated by S31 and then hopefully lost with the Kelvin archive

What exactly is the problem with blue warp nacelles?
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Old September 15 2013, 12:55 PM   #80
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What exactly is the problem with blue warp nacelles?
The blue nacelles are really a pain the ass, but at least you always rotate the hue.
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Old September 15 2013, 01:15 PM   #81
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Re: Defending J.J. Abrams (rant) (Spoilers)

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Yeah, but.... transwarp beaming... blue warp nacelles... Khan...
Transwarp beaming really is a pain in the a.. but at least Scotty's formula was confiscated by S31 and then hopefully lost with the Kelvin archive

What exactly is the problem with blue warp nacelles?
I will go out on a limb and declare that in the next movie, transwarp beaming won't even be mentioned.

I actually like the blue.
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Old September 15 2013, 01:31 PM   #82
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I like the blue nacelles, they are quite evocative of the refit Enterprise. On the other hand red bussard collectors wouldn't have looked bad either.
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Old September 15 2013, 02:52 PM   #83
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Re: Defending J.J. Abrams (rant) (Spoilers)

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On an entertainment level, STID was definitely better than ST 2009. That being said, the franchise is a lot worse off than it was after Nemesis. They've totally ruined Trek, they intent was to replace the original despite their bullshit claim that the prime universe continues. Now they are facing backlash from objective fans, some of the people here are going to kiss abrams ass and stick up for nutrek no matter what but the fact remains that there is a legitimate hatred for this new version of Trek and that feeling isn't going to go away. The best way to deal with paramount and abrams is to speak with your wallets.
The prime universe does continue, in the monthly novels from Pocket books. Speak with your wallet - buy them and read them.
Not to mention the Star Trek Online content "Path to 2409" and "Legacy of Romulus". How do the bullshit claims of a bunch of random people on the internet somehow outweigh the explicit intent of the creators of the films?
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Old September 15 2013, 05:54 PM   #84
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Has it been a week already? My! How time flies...

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On an entertainment level, STID was definitely better than ST 2009. That being said, the franchise is a lot worse off than it was after Nemesis.
Not fer nothin', and I know that 'Box Office Bomb' has been bandied about these boards a lot lately like a re-imagining of 'Chicken Little', but NEM was a Box Office Bomb. And coupling it with the early demise of ENT on TV, Trek was at its lowest point since TOS' cancellation in 1969.

IOW, Trek was dead.

They've totally ruined Trek, they intent was to replace the original despite their bullshit claim that the prime universe continues.
But the prime universe has continued in games and novels. I have a library of DVD's and BD's that haven't magically disappeared because of Abrams new timeline.

But FILMED prime universe stuff? It was dead before Abrams came into the picture (ha!). It died in '04. The 'hardcore angry fans' of today didn't bother to come out and support it, so it died.

Now they are facing backlash from objective fans, some of the people here are going to kiss abrams ass and stick up for nutrek no matter what
I'll leave this with the professionals here...

but the fact remains that there is a legitimate hatred for this new version of Trek and that feeling isn't going to go away.
That's fine. That's why there are so many different flavors of Trek. Some like 'this', but not 'that'. What's popular now may not be in existence in a few years when new faces and talents get hold of the Trek brand. And the arguing will happen all over again, the knashing of teeth and remembering the 'good 'ole days' of Trek.

The best way to deal with paramount and abrams is to speak with your wallets.
I agree. Don't buy into something you don't like. I never preferred VOY or ENT. Still don't.

I'll offer one better: I also don't spend time complaining on their boards about my dislike of something they enjoy. Live and let live, IDIC and all that. There's pleny 'o Trek fer everyone.

And it makes me quite a happy penguin, tyvm.

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