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Old September 12 2013, 03:49 PM   #2671
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^Speaking of jumping into new universes, I recently read Alastair Reynolds's Revelation Space, and liked it enough to track down the other two books in that trilogy, Redemption Ark (which I'm currently reading) and Absolution Gap. ...
Just a word of warning, as a trilogy, those three books are pretty loose. In particular, the third book isn't the epic finale you're expecting, more of a side story that winds its way into the narrative from the previous two, something which a lot of people find disappointing.
Having finished AG now, I don't think it's a "side story." It takes things in a different direction than one might have anticipated, but it's a direct continuation and resolution of the core characters' storylines. Although I agree that the emphasis was a bit too much on the religious politics on Hela, with the consequences of that arc to the larger narrative being glossed over in a brief epilogue.
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Old September 12 2013, 04:56 PM   #2672
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Just posted my review of the first book in The Fall, David R. George III's Revelation and Dust. It works well as setup for the rest of the The Fall series, I think. Of course, that depends on where the series goes next. A difficult one to review without seeing the payoff!

Right now I'm finally finishing up Mavericks: An Incorrigible History of Alberta by Aritha Van Hirk and The Year of the Flood by Margaret Atwood.
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Old September 12 2013, 09:50 PM   #2673
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What did you think of the Fringe book? I'm a big fan of the TV series, and the books have really intrigued me, especially the Walter/Bell one.
I found it to pretty good. The story was interesting and gripping. It's perhaps the earliest view of the characters we've seen, and I thought they where spot on. There are few nods to things from the series but not a lot. I did feel that the ending was wrapped up a little quickly, but I seem to think that about a lot of novels. Bottom line, if you're a fan of the series you should enjoy it. Just remember that it's a prequel about Walter, Bell, & Nina, so don't expect to see any Peter or Olivia.
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Old September 12 2013, 11:08 PM   #2674
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I finished Star Trek: Revelation and Dust a few days ago. I'm doing a big Dune series reread, in chronological order (including the brian Herbert/KJA books but excluding the Bulerian Jihad books or the bene gesserit prequel). I'm on God Emperor of Dune. To mix it up, I'm also going to reread the Department of Temporal Investigations books (Watching the Clock and Forgotten History). I really like them, and its been a bit over a year since I read them, so I'll have some star trek to mix in with my Dune reading.
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Old September 13 2013, 04:44 AM   #2675
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I'm a little over halfway through Paulo Freire's Pedagogy of the Oppressed. It's amazing, but very dense.

I took a short break from it last week, to read The Fall: Revelation and Dust, which I loved. Have ended up starting a re-read of KRAD's Articles of the Federation as a result, too.

After Pedagogy, I'm gonna go back and try to finish The Honourable Schoolboy and then either move straight to Smiley's People, or re-start and then finally finish Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States.
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Old September 13 2013, 04:56 AM   #2676
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What did you think of the Fringe book? I'm a big fan of the TV series, and the books have really intrigued me, especially the Walter/Bell one.
I found it to pretty good. The story was interesting and gripping. It's perhaps the earliest view of the characters we've seen, and I thought they where spot on. There are few nods to things from the series but not a lot. I did feel that the ending was wrapped up a little quickly, but I seem to think that about a lot of novels. Bottom line, if you're a fan of the series you should enjoy it. Just remember that it's a prequel about Walter, Bell, & Nina, so don't expect to see any Peter or Olivia.
Oh, I know it's a prequel, it's actually what interests me most about it.
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Old September 13 2013, 04:12 PM   #2677
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I somehow got out of the habit of posting in this thread for quite some time (4 months). Not sure why, I certainly haven't stopped reading. Over the summer, I've basically focused on my project of reading all of Pocket's ST books in more-or-less publication order, while also keeping up-to-date on new releases as they come out. Since my last post, I have read all ST novels published between Windows on a Lost World (TOS #65, published in early 1993) and Blaze of Glory (TNG #34, published in early 1995). I've also read everything published in 2013 up to and including Revelations and Dust. I've also mixed in a few other SF/Fantasy books such as A Dance with Dragons by George R. R. Martin, and some non-fiction as well. I recently finished a (partial) re-read of Reclaiming History: The Assassination of John F. Kennedy by Vincent Bugliosi. It's a massive work but well worth reading if you are interested in the subject matter. You may not agree with his conclusions (although I do), but he makes a very compelling argument.

That having been said, currently reading:

Valhalla (DS9 #10), by Nathan Archer
Gone for Soldiers by Jeff Shaara
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Old September 13 2013, 07:24 PM   #2678
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I'm reading "Magiër", so I probably won't read any Startrek books in a while.
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Old September 13 2013, 07:52 PM   #2679
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I'm reading DS9 #3 Bloodletter. I'm about 3/4 through and the story is okay, nothing special, but it suffers from the same problems a lot of the novels written during a first season of Trek. Character's are a bit off. And they keep referring to Bajorans as humans.

"Horen Rygis was as human as she [Kira]"

This happens a couple times and I just shake my head every time I read it. Overall though if I found another Trek book by K.W. Jeter I would read it.
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Old September 13 2013, 08:37 PM   #2680
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I'm reading DS9 #3 Bloodletter. I'm about 3/4 through and the story is okay, nothing special, but it suffers from the same problems a lot of the novels written during a first season of Trek. Character's are a bit off. And they keep referring to Bajorans as humans.

"Horen Rygis was as human as she [Kira]"

This happens a couple times and I just shake my head every time I read it. Overall though if I found another Trek book by K.W. Jeter I would read it.
You have to remember that we started writing those early DS9 books before the series hit the air. At first, all we had to go on was an early bible and the script of the pilot. If Bloodletter was #3, it's very possible Jeter hadn't even had a chance to watch an episode yet.

Readers sometimes comment that Kira is too on hard Bashir in the book John Betancourt and I wrote (#9), but that was just us picking up on that scene in the pilot where Kirk and Bashir first meet--and she rips him a new one. Obviously, the characters' relationship ended up evolving in a different direction, but we didn't know that back in 1993.
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Old September 13 2013, 08:46 PM   #2681
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I'm reading DS9 #3 Bloodletter. I'm about 3/4 through and the story is okay, nothing special, but it suffers from the same problems a lot of the novels written during a first season of Trek. Character's are a bit off. And they keep referring to Bajorans as humans.

"Horen Rygis was as human as she [Kira]"

This happens a couple times and I just shake my head every time I read it. Overall though if I found another Trek book by K.W. Jeter I would read it.
You have to remember that we started writing those early DS9 books before the series hit the air. At first, all we had to go on was an early bible and the script of the pilot. If Bloodletter was #3, it's very possible Jeter hadn't even had a chance to watch an episode yet.

Readers sometimes comment that Kira is too on hard Bashir in the book John Betancourt and I wrote (#9), but that was just us picking up on that scene in the pilot where Kirk and Bashir first meet--and she rips him a new one. Obviously, the characters' relationship ended up evolving in a different direction, but we didn't know that back in 1993.
No, don't get the wrong idea, I completely understand. That's why I said that if there are other books by K.W. Jeter I would give them a look. I couldn't imagine writing a novel based on the series bible. I've enjoyed many of the novels that were written very early in the series, you just have to go into them understanding that they had very little to go on at the time and that Major Kira is not going to be the same exact character as Season 7 Major Kira.
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Old September 13 2013, 08:50 PM   #2682
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Or should I say Season 7 Colonel Kira haha
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Old September 13 2013, 09:23 PM   #2683
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You have to remember that we started writing those early DS9 books before the series hit the air. At first, all we had to go on was an early bible and the script of the pilot. If Bloodletter was #3, it's very possible Jeter hadn't even had a chance to watch an episode yet.
Well, that would explain the thing that always bugged me about Bloodletter, which is that it misinterpreted the wormhole aliens' manifestations. In "Emissary," Sisko was immersed in scenes from his own memory with the aliens speaking through people who'd actually been in those scenes in real life. I think Michael Piller's intent was that Sisko's own mind was filtering the alien sensations of the wormhole through his own memories, so that his mind interpreted the Prophets' inquisitive aspect as Jake, their hostile aspect as Locutus, their wise aspect as Opaka, and so forth. But Bloodletter portrayed the wormhole aliens as choosing the forms they took, and appearing in front of Kira in the runabout rather than communicating through a scene from her memory. Basically Jeter treated them like Organians or Q rather than the far more alien thing they actually were. And that disappointed me.
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Old September 14 2013, 09:26 AM   #2684
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Finally read the first book in the Mere Anarchy series, "Things Fall Apart" and quite liked although it was rather short. Anyway, if people are interested I posted my review here.
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My dive backwards into Trek-lit finally hits the TNG era. First up, Double Helix: Infection.
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