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Old September 12 2013, 03:34 PM   #16
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

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TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT's warp effects always annoyed me. The stars streak past way too quickly to be in any way realistic.
Think of it as an optical illusion created by multiple layers of subspace distortion. Many of those stars aren't really there, IMO.
And the elastic band/Q poof jump just doesn't work for me. What is that flash of light supposed to be and where does it come from?
A brief, but very powerful, rip into subspace.
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Old September 12 2013, 03:43 PM   #17
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

I've grown to like the DS9/VOY warp. There's a slight enough difference from the TNG warp that, to me, can be pointed out -- the TNG warp is more stretchy for sure, but there are some shots where Defiant/Voyager is more streaky than stretchy, so it's like an improved version of the TNG warp, and with a touch of TOS movie warp thrown in for good mix.

Ultimately, though, i still wish that XI & XII had the warp flash at the end. Yes, I agree that it sounds powerful, and the tunnel reminds me of slipstream/transwarp conduits, but to me the warp flash could add to the boom of their warp bursts.
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Old September 12 2013, 05:17 PM   #18
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

I did not care for the artificial tube of lights in TMP, but the look of the ship as it went to warp with the lighting being left behind for a few moments- perfect for superluminal acceleration.
The rubber-band stretch effect did not do much for me- a warp field should distort space-time, not he ship that is generating it. My favorite TNG warp jump was when Wesley was watching it from Ten Forward.
STID with the pixie-dust trails just looks stupid IMO
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Old September 12 2013, 06:05 PM   #19
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

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STID with the pixie-dust trails just looks stupid IMO
I think the "pixie-dust" is irradiated particles left in the wake of the ship going to warp.
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Old September 12 2013, 06:12 PM   #20
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

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The rubber-band stretch effect did not do much for me- a warp field should distort space-time, not he ship that is generating it.
For an outside observer, the ship gets warped.
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Old September 12 2013, 06:40 PM   #21
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

The particle trail in STID was added in part because of the film being in 3D and they felt they needed to do something to create some depth in the shot when the ship shot away.
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Old September 12 2013, 06:46 PM   #22
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i kind of like the elastic band effect
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Old September 12 2013, 07:13 PM   #23
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Definitely another vote for the new movies' effect, minus the pixie dust. I'll always have a nostalgic place in my heart for the TNG style though.
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Old September 12 2013, 08:07 PM   #24
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

Having watched that youtube link again, the effect in ST09 has really grown on me, I love the subtle trail of light the fleet leaves behind while Sulu's busy cocking up engaging warp on the enterprise, makes the effect in STID look really cheesy
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Old September 12 2013, 08:46 PM   #25
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

I'm either going to be very pleased or very sorry for making everyone start using the term pixie dust here...
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Old September 12 2013, 09:05 PM   #26
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

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I'm either going to be very pleased or very sorry for making everyone start using the term pixie dust here...
Says the poster with the My Little Pony avatar
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Old September 13 2013, 12:28 AM   #27
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

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TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT's warp effects always annoyed me. The stars streak past way too quickly to be in any way realistic.
Think of it as an optical illusion created by multiple layers of subspace distortion. Many of those stars aren't really there, IMO.
Well given the light given off by a star is displaced by however many light years away you are from it, I always sorta justified the many stars streaking by, by maybe they're passing the displaced light of the same star multiple times.
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Old September 13 2013, 03:32 AM   #28
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

King Daniel Into Darkness wrote: View Post

TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT's warp effects always annoyed me. The stars streak past way too quickly to be in any way realistic. And the elastic band/Q poof jump just doesn't work for me. What is that flash of light supposed to be and where does it come from?
I just rewatched Into Darkness, and there are streaking stars during warp, particularly with the warp "tunnel" when the Vengeance is chasing the Enterprise. Kind of hard to see because of the different shades of blue, black, and white, but they're there. Perhaps to your annoyance, the stars streak by *much* faster and quicker than TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT ever did
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Old September 13 2013, 04:20 AM   #29
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The TNG era stretch and flash warp is my favorite by far. Maybe its because that is the first warp sequence I ever saw, but for me a jump to warp needs a stretch and flash.
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Old September 13 2013, 04:36 AM   #30
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End of TWoK for me, all the way. In general, I like TWoK's warp effects the best. It's got the slitscan look like TMP, but without the overly cartoon looking tube effect of the first film.

Plus that particular scene has the biggest emotional payoff of any warp scene I've ever seen.
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