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Old September 4 2013, 12:50 PM   #31
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Re: The Cage bridge.

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Well, as a safety concern, the railings are an accident waiting to happen. Until you're actually standing next to it, you don't really get a sense of how insecure they make you feel. If you are "down below," they're great. But if you're on the upper level, you notice that they catch you right at about knee level. They feel more like tripping devices than safety features. UFP OSHA would have a field day.
I've often thought as much. It looks like if the ship rocked in battle, you could break both knees on your way to doing a face-plant in the well. Ouch.
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Old September 4 2013, 04:13 PM   #32
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^There could conceivably be multiple different tones denoting different responses/states.
Right. Audio tones, plus changing button color indicators, maybe some force feedback tactile indicators on the controls. Many combinations could have been used to eliminate the need for graphic display screens.
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Old September 5 2013, 02:53 AM   #33
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ZapBrannigan wrote: View Post
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Well, as a safety concern, the railings are an accident waiting to happen. Until you're actually standing next to it, you don't really get a sense of how insecure they make you feel. If you are "down below," they're great. But if you're on the upper level, you notice that they catch you right at about knee level. They feel more like tripping devices than safety features. UFP OSHA would have a field day.
I've often thought as much. It looks like if the ship rocked in battle, you could break both knees on your way to doing a face-plant in the well. Ouch.
Best way to prevent this if you're on the upper level? Sit in your f***ing chair!
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Old September 5 2013, 07:47 AM   #34
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Re: The Cage bridge.

The chairs aren´t particularly safe either, since they
  • can rotate
  • are not fixed to the floor
  • don´t have restraints of any kind
So by sitting in a chair when all the shaking and rocking starts, you just fly around from a different position than when standing up - but down you´ll go
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Old September 5 2013, 12:11 PM   #35
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^I knew that would come up, but at least you're in the wrong position to go tripping over the railing.
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Old September 5 2013, 12:40 PM   #36
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I know what you meant. What I said was intended as a humorous remark
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Old September 5 2013, 01:46 PM   #37
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Same here.
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Old September 5 2013, 02:15 PM   #38
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Which proves once again how difficult it is, to convey such subtleties of meaning using only the written word. Even with all the modern day "smiley icons" at our disposal
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Old September 11 2013, 05:00 AM   #39
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Re: The Cage bridge.

I've alway figured that the bridge railing was never meant to be at safety height for the upper stations. It was designed to be at Kirk-lean-upon height from below.

But take a look at the railings in Wrath of Khan: Standing on the lower level, Kirk is able to rest his chin on them while declaring that he "feels young." There you have a functional guard rail. It's about the only feature of the movie-era bridge that I like better than TOS.

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Old September 11 2013, 03:06 PM   #40
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I've alway figured that the bridge railing was never meant to be at safety height for the upper stations. It was designed to be at Kirk-lean-upon height from below.
I say it was designed so that in a bumpy situation Yeoman Rand would have the choice whether she wanted to fall into Kirk's arms or grap on to the railing instead.

...or both.

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Old September 11 2013, 04:37 PM   #41
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Kirk was the master of stopping short.
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Old September 11 2013, 04:55 PM   #42
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Kirk was the master of stopping short.
Yes he was.
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Old September 14 2013, 07:32 PM   #43
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Those gooseneck viewers looked like accidents waiting to happen when the Director yelled "Roll!"
They had a few too many. A good office would have a standard monitor, the three view monitor on a conference room table nearby, with the gooseneck near the head seat for the captain, with padds on the table too.
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Old September 16 2013, 04:57 PM   #44
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Re: The Cage bridge.

I always liked the "Cage" color scheme, but retroactively I've always thought that in-universe the latter TOS era colors may've been an attempt to brighten things up for spacegoers - space is dark and you're on the ship all the time, so let's have something bright and colorful and less dreary to stare at.

...An attempt that apparently didn't work, since it was discontinued by TMP.
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Old September 16 2013, 05:55 PM   #45
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^In TMP, the ship was launched prematurely to deal with an emergency. They probably didn't have time to paint all the railings.
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