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Old September 8 2013, 04:23 AM   #46
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Re: How Star Trek fans sunk the Constitution on behalf of the Enterpri

The use of the Star Trek theme is confirmed in the wiki article.
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Old September 8 2013, 04:59 AM   #47
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Re: How Star Trek fans sunk the Constitution on behalf of the Enterpri

A. Hadn't read the article
B. Don't trust wikipedia too much
C. That article also doesn't mean that the Star Trek theme was ever used when the cousin did an unrep with the Enterprise and/or that he wasn't simply embellishing a sea story.
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Old September 8 2013, 05:17 AM   #48
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Re: How Star Trek fans sunk the Constitution on behalf of the Enterpri

Either as a source might be unreliable...when they agree, it's worth giving the cousin the benefit of the doubt. Do we have any reason to doubt both the cousin and the wiki article? Are they collaborating in a conspiracy to make Trek fans enlist in the Navy or something?
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Old September 8 2013, 05:47 AM   #49
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Just saying that the cousin wasn't pulling the poster's leg about the use of breakaway music, but COULD have been about that music being the ST theme; not knowing his cousin or participating in those particular unreps, I couldn't say. Not knowing, Zathras not saying...
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Old September 8 2013, 07:30 PM   #50
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Re: How Star Trek fans sunk the Constitution on behalf of the Enterpri

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Whereas I think the frigate needs to be emulated more. I heard a proposal in the mid-90s to name the new CVN design "Constitution-class", with the class ship being USS Ironsides, and the next several named after the other 5 frigates. That, IMO, would've been seriously cool. Unfortunately, they decided to go back to presidents...
Interesting. Of course that would only have allowed for five total, as Constellation was already in service. The carrier Congress would probably have been the butt of some jokes...

As some will already know, the closest the name "Constitution" came to a new warship was as a WW1-era Lexington-class battle cruiser, which were to have been named for notable vessels of the early Continental/US Navy. Constitution was originally supposed to be the lead ship, but names and hulls were shuffled around and the class ended up as:
  • Lexington (CC-1, finished as CV-2)
  • Constellation (CC-2)
  • Saratoga (CC-3, finished as CV-3)
  • Ranger (CC-4)
  • Constitution (CC-5)
  • United States (CC-6)
To free the name for the battle cruiser, the historic frigate was renamed Old Constitution for a few years till the new ship was cancelled.
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Old September 10 2013, 04:54 PM   #51
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Re: How Star Trek fans sunk the Constitution on behalf of the Enterpri

I don't think anyone hated the name Constitution and I think, given the circumstances, Enterprise was appropriate. I like that they changed it!
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Old September 10 2013, 08:21 PM   #52
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^ ^ Yeah, nobody hated Constitution, they just liked Enterprise so much better...
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