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Old September 9 2013, 07:21 PM   #421
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Re: Do fans want the prime timeline back?

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Then what's the point of going out of your way to make an alternate universe if it's just going to use the same elements again?
Because you and general audiences already know the fate of Kirk and Company in the Prime Timeline. You would have essentially been tying your own hands from a drama standpoint by just shoe-horning another adventure into the Prime timeline.
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Old September 9 2013, 07:23 PM   #422
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Then what's the point of going out of your way to make an alternate universe if it's just going to use the same elements again?
Because you can play with them in different ways--and aren't locked into forty-seven years of predetermined "canon." ("But Amanda can't die yet! We saw her in the fourth movie!")

You can make Khan a rogue agent of Section 31, for instance, or blow up Vulcan, or have Spock hook up with Uhura, or erase the Organian Peace Treaty from the continuity, or whatever. Nothing is set in stone.

Look at the new, modern-day versions of SHERLOCK and ELEMENTARY. They're doing fun twists on the classic elements--but aren't beholden to the original Conan Doyle "timeline."
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Old September 9 2013, 09:47 PM   #423
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Then what's the point of going out of your way to make an alternate universe if it's just going to use the same elements again?
To pick and choose what bits they wanted?
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Old September 10 2013, 12:45 AM   #424
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Then what's the point of going out of your way to make an alternate universe if it's just going to use the same elements again?
To pick and choose what bits they wanted?
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Old September 10 2013, 01:10 AM   #425
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Then what's the point of going out of your way to make an alternate universe if it's just going to use the same elements again?
I'm not sure what one has to do with the other. When DC does their next reboot of Superman should they dump the whole alien thing and Luthor being his arch foe?
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Old September 10 2013, 01:20 AM   #426
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Then what's the point of going out of your way to make an alternate universe if it's just going to use the same elements again?
I'm not sure what one has to do with the other. When DC does their next reboot of Superman should they dump the whole alien thing and Luthor being his arch foe?
There's a new Dracula series coming on NBC this fall. I'm going to go out on limb and guess that he's still a vampire--although they seem to be taking a plenty of liberties with the original story. As you do.

And I seriously doubt that they'll be returning to the old Hammer Films "timeline." Or that anybody really expects them to to!
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Old September 10 2013, 10:04 AM   #427
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You've already admitted one similarity, don't act like it has none.
I'll take that as an admission that your list contained zero rehashed stories.

"Don't act like it has none". Wow. I already said that it's one, and challenged anyone to provide more. No one has. This trick of yours to come back and re-mention that one scene, as though it counts as "more", is desperate and pathetic.
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Old September 10 2013, 02:32 PM   #428
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Re: Do fans want the prime timeline back?

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There's a new Dracula series coming on NBC this fall. I'm going to go out on limb and guess that he's still a vampire--although they seem to be taking a plenty of liberties with the original story. As you do.
And a 2014 film, the first major one since the 1992 film, which is already set to be more of a period drama based largely on Tepes and his past, which is rather rare for any of them.

But you know, still Tepes, still an aristocratic vampire in a castle.
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Old September 10 2013, 04:04 PM   #429
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This trick of yours to come back and re-mention that one scene, as though it counts as "more", is desperate and pathetic.
That's the second time that you had to reply to me with a snarky response. You state opinion and when someone responds, it either "doesn't count" or "isn't relevant" to you. You'll say "nobody has been able to explain how STID rehashed anything" after stating one. If my examples don't count at least you should take yours.
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Old September 11 2013, 10:02 AM   #430
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You state opinion and when someone responds, it either "doesn't count" or "isn't relevant" to you. You'll say "nobody has been able to explain how STID rehashed anything" after stating one. If my examples don't count at least you should take yours.
Don't play games. We've already stated that your list did NOT include any examples of reused stories. I've already allowed the reversed warp core scene, so there's that. I'm asking, and this is EXACTLY what happened in the first post I wrote on that, if there's anything more than that ONE scene. The list you provided doesn't include anything that could be considered a reused story. It's as simple as that, and your attempt to distract us won't change anything.
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Old September 12 2013, 12:46 AM   #431
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Re: Do fans want the prime timeline back?

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Then what's the point of going out of your way to make an alternate universe if it's just going to use the same elements again?
To pick and choose what bits they wanted?
Coming soon: Crisis on Infinite Treks
I can see it now.

Seriously, as has been said. Star Trek, and sci-fi itself, has been around so long that basically anything you come up with is pretty much a variant of something that has been done before. The magic of good writers is they can add their own unique twists to those done before concepts.
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Old September 13 2013, 05:58 PM   #432
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Re: Do fans want the prime timeline back?

The more I think about it, the more I want a proper prequel film of how Kirk really became Captain of the Enterprise. In the style of films like Love Actually, Crash or Traffic, with all the character's ways to end up on the ship told in parallel, interweaved stories.

No contrived bullshit of him meeting McCoy and Uhura in Iowa, no Spock is the programmer of Kobayashi Maru crap, no instant cadet to Captain promotion fuck.

The massacre on Tarsus IV, Kirk's adventures on the Farragut, Spock's adventures with Pike, and other stuff are interesting stories. And there would be still A SHITLOAD of room to tell new exciting stories the characters had before getting on the Enterprise.



And just for fun I want that 300 style epic Klingon tale about Klingons slaying their gods, and Kahless' adventures. R-rated, heavily stylized, science fiction fantasy epic.
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Old September 13 2013, 06:34 PM   #433
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I would agree with that post up until you came out with the Klingon 300 movie.
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Old September 13 2013, 06:45 PM   #434
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I would agree with that post up until you came out with the Klingon 300 movie.
Actually, I thought part that sounded pretty good!
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Old September 13 2013, 07:40 PM   #435
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^Same, I'd watch it.

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