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The Next Generation All Good Things come to an end...but not here.

View Poll Results: What is wrong with "Genesis"?
It's science is flawed - (d)evolution doesn't work like that 14 22.58%
I am a creationist - (d)evolution is a falsehood 2 3.23%
It is simply a rubbish episode 13 20.97%
I love it 33 53.23%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

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Old September 9 2013, 07:35 AM   #1
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The hate at "Genesis"

I've seen alot of hate for this episode around these boards. I don't get it - I've always considered it a scientifically flawed but fun romp in an otherwise dull final season for TNG (they deserved much better). Can you help me understand why by voting and commenting.

(I realise the poll options aren't mutally exclusive but vote for what most closely fits your view. Cheers!)
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Old September 9 2013, 10:40 AM   #2
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Re: The hate at "Genesis"

I love "Genesis".

Ok the science may be a little far-fetched, but this is on a series where they travel at faster-than-light velocity and utilise transports--it's meant to be fun and enjoyable to watch.
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Old September 9 2013, 12:25 PM   #3
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Re: The hate at "Genesis"

I don't love the episode, but I don't hate it. It scared the crap out of my seven year old self when it first aired. I couldn't watch it until many years later. So for that, it kind of does have a special place in my memory.
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Old September 9 2013, 01:13 PM   #4
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Re: The hate at "Genesis"

I love this episode. Like most Trek, the science behind it is a little silly but guess what? Trek is science FICTION.

As fiction, this ep is a lot of fun.
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Old September 9 2013, 01:14 PM   #5
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Re: The hate at "Genesis"

I like Genesis, don't care about the science in it.

I don't think that in any episode the concept of evolution has been used correctly. There is no path forwards or backwards, you cannot suddenly evolve or de-evolve.
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Old September 9 2013, 04:30 PM   #6
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Re: The hate at "Genesis"

My wife loves it.

I really don't. Though my thoughts on in may be colored by the fact I was pretty burnt out on TNG at that point (definitely a show kept on well past its "best by" date).
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Old September 9 2013, 06:10 PM   #7
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Re: The hate at "Genesis"

I always thought it was hokey, especially the science part.
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Old September 9 2013, 06:12 PM   #8
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Re: The hate at "Genesis"

I am a Christian so I went with the creationist option.

But, that is not why I didn't like the episode. I've loved a lot of stories that dealt with evolution before. This episode just carried the wacky science too far and failed to impress me.
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Old September 9 2013, 06:44 PM   #9
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Re: The hate at "Genesis"

Hey... at least there weren't wacky salamander children in it.
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Old September 9 2013, 08:26 PM   #10
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Re: The hate at "Genesis"

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Hey... at least there weren't wacky salamander children in it.
That's two stupid episodes by Braga involving dubious de-evolution.
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Old September 9 2013, 08:27 PM   #11
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Braga was always weak on science or even technobabble resembling science. He's at his best when he's writing episodes that screw with your head.
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Old September 9 2013, 09:37 PM   #12
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Re: The hate at "Genesis"

on Blip Sfdebris has a review that points out the many varied problems with the episode in his Opinionated reviews.

Makes some good points both on the bad science and the structuring of the episode.
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Old September 9 2013, 09:46 PM   #13
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Re: The hate at "Genesis"

The Barclay spider was a nice echo of Al (David) Hedison in "The Fly".
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Old September 9 2013, 10:16 PM   #14
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Re: The hate at "Genesis"

It's high concept fantasy, which doesn't fit everyone's conception of what Star Trek is (or should be), but I love it. It's certainly a terrific showcase for Michael Westmore's talents.
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Old September 9 2013, 10:24 PM   #15
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Re: The hate at "Genesis"

C_Miller wrote: View Post
I don't love the episode, but I don't hate it. It scared the crap out of my seven year old self when it first aired. I couldn't watch it until many years later. So for that, it kind of does have a special place in my memory.
I'm in the same boat, I was 6 when I first saw it and was bloody terrified

If you can overlook the blatantly obvious science issues its a good way to kill 45 minutes.
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