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Old September 7 2013, 12:48 AM   #286
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^Every work of fiction about the future is really about the present.
Correct.

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Old September 7 2013, 12:52 AM   #287
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^Every work of fiction about the future is really about the present.
By that asinine belief, every work of fiction, period, is really about the present. Hell, even non-fiction, since the only way that's even remotely true is if you really stretch logic to the breaking point.

It's the same kind of stupidity that college professors use when they try to explain all the intricate, overcomplicated thoughts Shakespeare had behind the writing every single letter of his works.
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Old September 7 2013, 02:38 AM   #288
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I thought it was a very solid finale. Better than "Devil's Hands" and "Overclocked" and definitely better than "Wild Green Yonder".
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Old September 7 2013, 05:39 AM   #289
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It's the same kind of stupidity that college professors use when they try to explain all the intricate, overcomplicated thoughts Shakespeare had behind the writing every single letter of his works.
All the time in high school of me saying "How do you know what he means? Have you met him?!"

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I thought it was a very solid finale. Better than "Devil's Hands" and "Overclocked" and definitely better than "Wild Green Yonder".
I agree. This one, Devil's Hands, Overclocked (I'd like it more with less Bender) and Wild Green Yonder was just odd.
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Old September 7 2013, 06:24 AM   #290
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Old September 7 2013, 03:54 PM   #291
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I know everything is derivitive of something else, but all I could think of while watching the finale was Stargate SG-1's finale, "Unending."
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Old September 7 2013, 10:10 PM   #292
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^Every work of fiction about the future is really about the present.
I would revise that to say, every work of fiction about the future is about the human condition in general, removed from the facts of the present.

Yes, most of great science fiction parallels problems of the present. But not specific elements of the present. Not specific people who are alive in present day or specific organizations. The more verbatim specific the analogies get, the less they tend to work. For instance, the environment episode from TNG.

I watched a few first season episodes and my feeling is that the premises for the episodes are awesome but the jokes aren't funny. I think the reason I like the newer episodes better is that they focus on letting the jokes flow from the characters based on science fiction tropes. Not just making specific references to specific things in present day.
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Old September 7 2013, 10:26 PM   #293
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Yes, most of great science fiction parallels problems of the present. But not specific elements of the present. Not specific people who are alive in present day or specific organizations.
That depends on the particular work. A lot of characters in classic SF have been allegories for the Communists or the Nazis or Joseph McCarthy or what-have-you.


I watched a few first season episodes and my feeling is that the premises for the episodes are awesome but the jokes aren't funny. I think the reason I like the newer episodes better is that they focus on letting the jokes flow from the characters based on science fiction tropes. Not just making specific references to specific things in present day.
That's not an early/late divide. Just about any era of Futurama has a mix of stories that use science fiction ideas to drive a character-based narrative (e.g. "Parasites Lost," "Time Keeps on Slippin'," or "The Sting") and stories that are just riffs on present-day trends with vague trappings of future technology (like "Raging Bender," "Bender Should Not Be Allowed on TV," or "Attack of the Killer App").

You say you've only seen the first and last seasons so far. Well, the last season has a lot of the strengths that developed after the first season, but those strengths arose far sooner, and the last season is not as strong overall as the intermediate seasons were.
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Old September 8 2013, 01:58 AM   #294
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I thought the finale was sweet. Fry and Leela get married and grow old together.
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Old September 9 2013, 12:40 AM   #295
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Came across this and thought it was cool.

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Old September 9 2013, 12:50 AM   #296
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^ Hell, I couldn't even do the pattern on his jacket let alone the rest.
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Old September 9 2013, 02:36 AM   #297
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I have a question about the finale.

They walked all over the planet, they walked on water to get places and didn't sink in. Yet when they drank their wine the wine moved. How did that work?
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Old September 9 2013, 02:39 AM   #298
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I have a question about the finale.

They walked all over the planet, they walked on water to get places and didn't sink in. Yet when they drank their wine the wine moved. How did that work?
Chronitons are lighter than air, so they floated upward, flowing around the objects Fry and Leela interacted with, but not sinking down to affect things below their feet.

(Just read it in the Professor's voice, and it'll work.)
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Old September 9 2013, 03:39 AM   #299
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But the bubble didn't go up 260 stories. :-p
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Old September 9 2013, 03:45 AM   #300
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Fabulous finale, so much for fitting than the others. My wife and I were teary-eyed.

I have one and only one issue!
When the Professor takes Zoidberg's ten dollars and then resets time...why doesn't Zoidberg have the ten dollars again? Later, when Fry goes in and steals the diamonds, he keeps taking the same one over and over again. So what was up with Zoidberg's ten dollar bill?
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