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Old September 5 2013, 11:25 PM   #7231
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Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

See, this is the kind of shit that keeps me from caring overly much about DC these days. I may or may not buy a book because of who is writing it, but I couldn't give a flying f**k about the editor. Let the writers write!! I understand the role an editor can and should play in the crafting of a story, but ultimately, if they don't let the writers write the stories that they want to write, the final product is going to suffer.

I think that Dark Horse's Scott Allie hits the nail right on the head here.
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Old September 5 2013, 11:34 PM   #7232
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Just read Forever Evil.

Oh, noes, everyone knows Dick Grayson is Nightwing! Oh. How... DARING!
Snore. Is it really THAT big of a deal? They did it with Spiderman. Iron Man did it in the movies. Both years ago. In that context, that big surprise was not really all that interesting.

Maybe they should've paralyzed him and made him the new Oracle... lol
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Old September 5 2013, 11:43 PM   #7233
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I always forget that Superwoman is Lois lane.

Justice league America/Deadshot was pretty good. Floyd's origin and the evolution of Amanda Waller from pimp to John
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Old September 6 2013, 07:34 AM   #7234
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^So, the real reason Lobdell is off Superman?
Lobdell and Tom DeFalco are tag teaming the writing with Rob Leifeld taking over on pencils.
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Old September 6 2013, 08:27 AM   #7235
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Ah well. That's why it's news to me. I don't read "Supergirl" any more.


Oh dear.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/09/...maggie-sawyer/

The headline is a little tad bit sensationalist if you read what Williams actually says.
Interesting it kinda confirms why it happened with Flash and Superman. Guess no one cares about Aquaman.

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So New 52 Cyborg Superman is
That was in the last issue of Supergirl.
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Old September 6 2013, 02:52 PM   #7236
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I picked up several Villains books and Forever Evil #1.

I liked Forever Evil quite a bit. Of the other books I got (Darkseid, Poison Ivy, Two-Face, The Joker, Count Vertigo, and Relic), I've read most of them. Of those I've read, I think overall it's a mixed bag.

I'm still looking forward to Black Manta, but I don't know how many more Villains books I'll pick up. I do think I'll continue reading Forever Evil.
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Old September 6 2013, 11:37 PM   #7237
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And now for today's episode of that the hell are the people at DC thinking.....

I'm seriously starting to lose interest in reading DC's stuff. I can't even wrap my mind around the decisions they seem to be making lately.

Even if the whole Batwoman thing wasn't brought about by homophobia and not wanting to piss off the anti-gay people they had to realize it was going to look that way, and that it would make them look bad in a lot of people's eyes.
And now this, I just can't even wrap my mind around how someone could have possibly thought this was a good idea.

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Old September 7 2013, 01:04 AM   #7238
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^So, the real reason Lobdell is off Superman?
Lobdell and Tom DeFalco are tag teaming the writing with Rob Leifeld taking over on pencils.
When is Leifeld taking over--or more specifically, when will Lois start being drawn in a way that I cannot read the comic around my wife without being embarrassed?
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Old September 7 2013, 01:10 AM   #7239
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^So, the real reason Lobdell is off Superman?
Lobdell and Tom DeFalco are tag teaming the writing with Rob Leifeld taking over on pencils.
When is Leifeld taking over--or more specifically, when will Lois start being drawn in a way that I cannot read the comic around my wife without being embarrassed?
Liefield is a embarrassment to read in front of any human.
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Old September 7 2013, 01:31 AM   #7240
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You know the funny thing? We all mocked Liefeld when he had his rather dramatic break from DC. Now we realize he was right.
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Old September 7 2013, 01:40 AM   #7241
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You know the funny thing? We all mocked Liefeld when he had his rather dramatic break from DC. Now we realize he was right.
This does not change the fact that his style is embarrassingly awful. This is true because he obviously has talent but chooses not to work at improving and correcting his errors. He could easily start drawing the female form more tastefully immediately but he CHOOSES not to do so. What the F&^% is up with that?
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Old September 7 2013, 01:45 AM   #7242
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You know the funny thing? We all mocked Liefeld when he had his rather dramatic break from DC. Now we realize he was right.
That was only the aborted Daemonite War crossover. The bigger problems at DC has been there for along time.
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Old September 7 2013, 01:49 AM   #7243
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You know the funny thing? We all mocked Liefeld when he had his rather dramatic break from DC. Now we realize he was right.
That was only the aborted Daemonite War crossover. The bigger problems at DC has been there for along time.
The Daemonites played such a significant role in the first year of the new 52. I would like to see some resolution to it.
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Old September 7 2013, 02:35 AM   #7244
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Aside from Hellspont popping up in Superman, what else did they do?
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Old September 7 2013, 02:52 AM   #7245
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Aside from Hellspont popping up in Superman, what else did they do?
All I bought was Superman, but they were the major plotline of Voodoo and Grifter. Granted, those series have been cancelled but was their any resolution to the story?
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