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View Poll Results: Do fans want the prime timeline back?
I'm a fan and I want the Prime timeline back. 210 56.91%
I'm a fan and I don't want the Prime timeline back. 61 16.53%
I'm a fan and wouldn't mind if it came back. 39 10.57%
I don't care, just give me Trek! 53 14.36%
I don't know. 6 1.63%
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Old September 6 2013, 08:37 PM   #16
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Re: Do fans want the prime timeline back? Part 2: Poll edition.

BillJ wrote: View Post
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No absolutely not. Tv Episodes have big budget constraints so naturally you have less exciting/engaging episode...
TOS was always working under budget and time constraints and never seemed to have an issue with telling exciting/engaging episodes.
True...

I guess the other point about being emotionally attached does hold more ground than I first thought...


And I did delete that comment after reading it back, you were too fast for me
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Old September 6 2013, 08:54 PM   #17
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Re: Do fans want the prime timeline back? Part 2: Poll edition.

I voted that I want it back as it is what I personally want.
I enjoyed the '09 move, haven't seen the new one yet, but it wasn't Star Trek for me.

Would I want the NuTrek to end? No. I tried to get my children into Trek but they never really got into it. When the '09 movie came out my oldest son, now 32, loved it. So I have a new Trek fan in my family now. Which I consider a great thing. Anything that brings in new people to Trek is a good thing in my opinion.

If there had been an option for both I would have chosen that.
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Old September 6 2013, 09:00 PM   #18
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jpv2000 wrote: View Post

Would I want the NuTrek to end? No. I tried to get my children into Trek but they never really got into it. When the '09 movie came out my oldest son, now 32, loved it. So I have a new Trek fan in my family now. Which I consider a great thing. Anything that brings in new people to Trek is a good thing in my opinion.

If there had been an option for both I would have chosen that.
The re boot for movies (if more thought goes into it than Into Darkness) and prime line back for TV... Hmm... Interesting!
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Old September 6 2013, 09:13 PM   #19
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LOKAI of CHERON wrote: View Post
...anything stylistically resembling Berman era Trek would likely kill the franchise at this point, so if that's what you mean by "Prime", then no, I wouldn't want it.
Why do people assume "Prime" Trek means Berman style. Prime timeline doesn't necessarily mean that, it's the incorporation of all of it's Pre-NuTrek history.
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Old September 6 2013, 09:24 PM   #20
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Re: Do fans want the prime timeline back? Part 2: Poll edition.

It seems to me that this question almost boils down to "Would you rather see a bad Primeverse series than a good NewVerse one?" Because if not, then why not allow the Newverse to continue?
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Old September 6 2013, 09:29 PM   #21
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^ Exactly. Just setting something in the old timeline doesn't automatically improve it!

And may actually discourage potential new fans . . . .
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Old September 6 2013, 10:01 PM   #22
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It seems to me that this question almost boils down to "Would you rather see a bad Primeverse series than a good NewVerse one?"
Why be hurtful? Prime trek may be "bad" to you but it certainly doesn't boil down to that.

Because if not, then why not allow the Newverse to continue?
It's an alternate reality and as reusable as the Mirror universe. A Prime TV series could exist while NuTrek continues in movies for as long as it can.

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^ Exactly. Just setting something in the old timeline doesn't automatically improve it!
And it doesn't automatically make it bad.
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Old September 6 2013, 10:24 PM   #23
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Re: Do fans want the prime timeline back? Part 2: Poll edition.

Nobody said that anything set in the Primeverse would automatically be bad. I'm not sure why you're taking it that way.
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Old September 6 2013, 10:33 PM   #24
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^I was stating the other side of Greg Cox's statement.

Edit: Wait, you said "bad Primeverse". Are you trolling or something?
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Old September 6 2013, 11:21 PM   #25
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Kirk the Jerk wrote: View Post
True...

I guess the other point about being emotionally attached does hold more ground than I first thought...
There's nothing wrong with being attached to Trek. Hell, I've been attached to Kirk and Spock since I was five-years old. But I want them to make decisions that are in the best long-term interests of the franchise.
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Old September 6 2013, 11:27 PM   #26
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Re: Do fans want the prime timeline back? Part 2: Poll edition.

As I understood it, DonIago wasn't saying that the Primeline was "bad." He was just asking why, if people want good Trek, they can't just hope for for good Trek in the NewLine? If all you want is good Trek, why obsess over the old continuity at this point? Unless you actually care more "restoring the prime timeline" than, say, the actual quality of productions?

In that case, the debate isn't about quality at all. Just nostalgia and "canon."
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Old September 6 2013, 11:32 PM   #27
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Re: Do fans want the prime timeline back? Part 2: Poll edition.

I don't think the PTL is coming back, but if it did I'd be fine with it as long as I'm entertained. The ATL is currently entertaining me.
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Old September 6 2013, 11:39 PM   #28
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bbjeg wrote: View Post

Edit: Wait, you said "bad Primeverse". Are you trolling or something?
Read the whole sentence: He asked if bad Primeverse is preferable to good NuTrek.

It's like asking if you prefer even bad TOS ("Spocks' Brain") to good TNG ("The Measure of a Man.") Doesn't mean you're saying all TOS is bad.

There's good pizza and bad pizza. Comparing bad pizza to good sushi is not an attack on pizza in general!
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Old September 7 2013, 01:09 AM   #29
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Re: Do fans want the prime timeline back? Part 2: Poll edition.

My ideal scenario would be that the movies continue to be in their own universe, and then a future TV show continues on with the prime universe.

[And I believe this might be the only legal possibility? I read somewhere that the film rights are held by a different entity from the television rights. Granted, if paramount wanted a movie universe show they could probably throw enough money to make it happen.]
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Old September 7 2013, 05:41 AM   #30
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Re: Do fans want the prime timeline back? Part 2: Poll edition.

Paramount controls the films and CBS the TV. As far as the "rights" go, it's kind of a gray area.
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