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Old September 2 2013, 08:43 AM   #16
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Re: Humpback whales

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So humpback whales are aliens? Erm....not too sure what to make of that.
So long, and thanks for all the krill!
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Old September 3 2013, 08:37 AM   #17
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I inferred that the aliens who sent the probe did not originally seed Earth with whales, but instead that the first time these aliens, or their probes, visited Earth the highest form of intelligent indigenous life was whale. So they sent another probe to check on the whales' condition unaware of human progress.
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Old September 3 2013, 01:34 PM   #18
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Makes sense, except it's a bit weird the aliens would first send a probe advanced enough to deduce that whales are smart and interesting, and then follow with a probe so stupid that it cannot make the same deduction on current evidence and realize there are also humans there. And chimps, and other possible challengers to the whales.

Somehow, the aliens must have decided that whales should be promoted over all later contestants. But if so, why did they stop being destructive to land-dwelling life when the whales reappeared? Surely killing surface life with added cloud cover could have been done in a way that would still leave enough plankton for the whales to weather the weather, and then emerge triumphant...

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Old September 3 2013, 07:59 PM   #19
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Re: Humpback whales

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Ahh time travel gives me a headache haha, I see what you're saying but again, if it was 'easy' for him, he could have gone back a few months (in the Abrams universe) warned everyone on Vulcan of their imminent destruction (or at least his own Mother) and saved many thousands of lives, his fellow Vulcans... Not just sit in hiding as he eventually does. It does open up a possible reboot of a reboot though
I really hope they don't go there. It would probably give you an even worse headache.
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Old September 6 2013, 03:13 AM   #20
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Re: Humpback whales

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Ahh time travel gives me a headache haha, I see what you're saying but again, if it was 'easy' for him, he could have gone back a few months (in the Abrams universe) warned everyone on Vulcan of their imminent destruction (or at least his own Mother) and saved many thousands of lives, his fellow Vulcans... Not just sit in hiding as he eventually does. It does open up a possible reboot of a reboot though
I really hope they don't go there. It would probably give you an even worse headache.
From a certain point of view its not his mother or his Vulcan. He seems content to let things play out on their own.
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Old September 6 2013, 01:38 PM   #21
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Makes sense, except it's a bit weird the aliens would first send a probe advanced enough to deduce that whales are smart and interesting, and then follow with a probe so stupid that it cannot make the same deduction on current evidence and realize there are also humans there. And chimps, and other possible challengers to the whales.

Somehow, the aliens must have decided that whales should be promoted over all later contestants. But if so, why did they stop being destructive to land-dwelling life when the whales reappeared? Surely killing surface life with added cloud cover could have been done in a way that would still leave enough plankton for the whales to weather the weather, and then emerge triumphant...

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I recall reading that in the novel Probe, the writers inferred that an attack on the Probe by the Borg in the distant past damaged its memory drive. Perhaps that could account for its odd behavior?
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