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Old August 31 2013, 03:48 AM   #46
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It's also rather difficult to ignore the conceit that after warp technicians have been trying to reach warp 10 all over the galaxy for centuries, Paris figures it out on his own in a few weeks.

That would be like if I woke up tomorrow and suddenly cured cancer.

And ALSO rather difficult to ignore the fact that going warp 9.99999 doesn't turn you into lizards but does get you home in a few seconds.
People tend to forget that they discovered a new type of dilithium in this episode. That's what allowed them to reach warp 10.
IIRC, it wasn't a new form of dilithium, but actually a different substance that the federation thought was only theoretical; kind of like Omega, but not!

Point taken though!
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Old August 31 2013, 04:02 AM   #47
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All this talk about newt sex made my mind wander to politician Newt Gingrich, the last person I want to think about while thinking of sex.
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Old August 31 2013, 04:02 AM   #48
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This is all highly experimental.

What if you got back to earth and the inoculation wore off unexpectedly during your big reunion?
Boom, and there's an arc for season 3. Very Xindi-like. A new race in the alpha quadrant: the Newt-toids. I bet Harry Kim's character would be better as a newt anyway. Or hey, maybe they accidentally slingshot around the sun on the way back to earth, and then they go back in time to earth in its early stages. And then we learn the human race actually evolved from the crew of Voyager. It's the circle of life. I can hear Elton John right now...
There's something familiar about that..
hmm?
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Old August 31 2013, 04:09 AM   #49
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Planet of the Titans?
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Old September 6 2013, 12:30 PM   #50
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As I understand it, Threshold isn't regarded as canon, so we can safely ignore its oddities.
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Old September 6 2013, 12:35 PM   #51
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What! Of course it's canon. IT IS GLORIOUS CANON.

Their beautiful children are listed by memoryalpha under Paris and Janeway's names. It's not in the apocrypha section. They exist. They are out there. They are coming back.
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Old September 6 2013, 12:37 PM   #52
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Everything on screen is canon... Except maybe the Animated Series?

Nothing is exempt, no matter how poorly acted or badly reasoned or plain false or morally absurd.

Live action tv or movie means canon.

In Doctor who there's 106 missing episodes (so far).

Poof.

Gone forever, and they're still canon.
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Old September 6 2013, 12:38 PM   #53
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Did we just spitroast someone Teacake?
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Old September 6 2013, 12:46 PM   #54
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We crushed their dreams.
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Old September 6 2013, 12:59 PM   #55
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Is it on screen, otherwise it's not canon.
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Old September 6 2013, 01:32 PM   #56
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Noddy is referring to the possibility of the decanonification of aired TV.

It's like trying to keep a face when people talk about their desire to reviginify.

Spiritual or surgical.
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Old September 6 2013, 01:43 PM   #57
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Re: Warp 10

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It's also rather difficult to ignore the conceit that after warp technicians have been trying to reach warp 10 all over the galaxy for centuries, Paris figures it out on his own in a few weeks.

That would be like if I woke up tomorrow and suddenly cured cancer.

And ALSO rather difficult to ignore the fact that going warp 9.99999 doesn't turn you into lizards but does get you home in a few seconds.
People tend to forget that they discovered a new type of dilithium in this episode. That's what allowed them to reach warp 10.
IIRC, it wasn't a new form of dilithium, but actually a different substance that the federation thought was only theoretical; kind of like Omega, but not!

Point taken though!
this is what they said:

PARIS: We discovered a new form of dilithium in the asteroid field we surveyed last month. It remains stable at a much higher warp frequency.
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Old September 6 2013, 01:53 PM   #58
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Is it on screen, otherwise it's not canon.
It's canon, and yes this is mean
But what aired cannot be unseen
'Twas in Braga's mind
Shat out his behind
On a script, then onto the screen.
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Old September 6 2013, 01:55 PM   #59
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Could you imagine the awful fanfiction that would have been written if they'd called it something like "quadlithium" or "Hexolithium"?
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Old September 6 2013, 02:03 PM   #60
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Or bilithium, it swings both ways
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