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Old September 2 2013, 02:33 AM   #91
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It is illegal to keep hamsters and gerbils in Australia. I have never seen either in real life.

Miss Kitten, that urn looks very pretty! I haven't seen anything like that yet here in Germany. But perhaps that's because I live in the country where everyone has a garden to bury their pets in
We have a garden that we could have buried Miss Chicken in. I have always buried pets in the past. However Miss Chicken was so special to me that I didn't want to leave her behind if we ever move.
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Old September 2 2013, 06:43 AM   #92
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In my family, we buried hamsters or buried them at sea, depending on their size.
When I was a child, my family gave a goldfish a burial at sea, by which I mean it was flushed down the toilet.
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Old September 2 2013, 10:01 AM   #93
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It is illegal to keep hamsters and gerbils in Australia. I have never seen either in real life.
That's interesting. What's the reason for that?
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Old September 2 2013, 10:46 AM   #94
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It is illegal to keep hamsters and gerbils in Australia. I have never seen either in real life.
That's interesting. What's the reason for that?
Because they could become pests if they escaped. We have enough problems with rabbits, cats becoming feral.

Pet rabbbits are banned in Queensland, ferrets are banned in Queensland and the Northern Territory. Axolotls, pythons and pet turtles are banned in Tasmania. Goldfish cannot be imported into Tasmania but we are allowed to breed from existing stock.
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Old September 2 2013, 04:49 PM   #95
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I understand about the pet rabbits - they'd propably catch myxomatosis really quick. And not introducing hunters like pythons and ferrets makes sense as well. I don't realize at first glance what could be so dangerous about turtles, though.

In order to avoid pets from breeding they could permit the import of only male specimens. Forbidding the risky species completely is easier, though, and cheaper.

We are atm experiencing a big invasion by Asian ladybugs. Within less than 5 years they have driven most of our 30 native species close to extinction. They are pretty and they eat even more greenflies than our ladybugs but they propagate worse than greenflies and need more warmth so that in fall they invade buildings by thousands. Our native ones are far better behaved and spend the winter in snail shells, under loose bark or in woodstacks.
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Old September 2 2013, 09:26 PM   #96
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It is illegal to keep hamsters and gerbils in Australia. I have never seen either in real life.
That's interesting. What's the reason for that?
Because they could become pests if they escaped. We have enough problems with rabbits, cats becoming feral.

Pet rabbbits are banned in Queensland, ferrets are banned in Queensland and the Northern Territory. Axolotls, pythons and pet turtles are banned in Tasmania. Goldfish cannot be imported into Tasmania but we are allowed to breed from existing stock.
That's fascinating. The idea of a feral hamster never occurred to me.
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Old September 3 2013, 03:05 PM   #97
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^ Goodness knows we have enough wild, mad creatures roaming the bush. I ahve this vision of hamsters with giant teeth, waiting.... in the dark...
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Old September 3 2013, 05:17 PM   #98
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I have this vision of Australians arming themselves with the Holy Hand Grenade to combat the hamster with giant teeth waiting in the dark.
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Old September 3 2013, 05:32 PM   #99
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In my family, we buried hamsters or buried them at sea, depending on their size.
When I was a child, my family gave a goldfish a burial at sea, by which I mean it was flushed down the toilet.
That's also what I was referring to.
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Old September 3 2013, 10:32 PM   #100
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Now I fear the Hamster Apocalypse.

Australis, SyFy called. They want you to write that up as a movie.
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Old September 3 2013, 11:02 PM   #101
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I think that hamsters are seen as a potential danger to Australia's very small marsupials such as the kowari. Though they wouldn't be competing for food (kowaris are little carnivores) they certainly would compete for burrows.

Edited to add - I read that hamsters in the wild eat insects so there would be competition for food.
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Old September 4 2013, 09:24 AM   #102
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I wonder if kowaris would find hamsters tasty.
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Old September 4 2013, 12:01 PM   #103
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Hamsters are rather fierce fighters. I thnk the Kowaris would end up getting eaten.
All hamsters are omnivores. How much animal protein they need depends on their species. The classical syrian gold hamster requires about 30% animal protein and is the most vegetarian hamster. Dsungarian dwarf hamsters need almost 60% animal protein in their diet and are the most carnivore species. As a rule of thumb: the smaller the species the more carnivore.
(I helped a friend with his doctoral thesis on hamsters, hence I am pretty good at everything hamsterish )
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Old September 4 2013, 12:53 PM   #104
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I used to keep Syrian hamsters. Vicious little buggers...
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Old September 4 2013, 01:12 PM   #105
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did they rebel? (terrible joke)

we buried a kitty years ago in my parents garden with a load of different flower seeds, they still grow there every year
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