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Old September 3 2013, 02:15 PM   #1126
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

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I'm bemused that GOTG is being held up as something to emulate since all we have seen are a few clips - it could be an absolute stinker.
I did say what it appears to be doing. Also, those clips are already superior to any GL clips we got prior to release.
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Old September 3 2013, 05:32 PM   #1127
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But not a minority of one. I found it entertaining and a lot closer to the GL I grew up with than I ever expected a movie version to portray. Not the best of superhero movies, but certainly not the disaster some would have us believe.
Yup, I just rewatched Daredevil and the two Fantastic Four movies, and it's a helluva lot better than those.
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Old September 3 2013, 08:34 PM   #1128
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Yup, I just rewatched Daredevil and the two Fantastic Four movies, and it's a helluva lot better than those.
Have you seen the Director's Cut of Daredevil? It's actually rather good.
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Old September 3 2013, 08:45 PM   #1129
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Re: ‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

I've rewatched The Dark Knight in the last few days, and I have to say that it's a good movie. With that in mind, I placed orders for Begins and Rises so that I can watch them again.

But my original opinion in one area has not changed. Christian Bale was not the best Batman I've ever seen.

I hope that Affleck does a better job as the Bat, without the over-the-top acting that Bale did.

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Old September 3 2013, 08:46 PM   #1130
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I still haven't seen GL. I really must get round to it.
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Old September 3 2013, 09:20 PM   #1131
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Have you seen the Director's Cut of Daredevil? It's actually rather good.
Yeah that's the one I have. It's a bit better than the theatrical, but I still find the movie as a whole to be a rather dull experience.

Of course I don't really know the character that well, so I may not be the best judge.
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Old September 3 2013, 09:27 PM   #1132
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Yup, I just rewatched Daredevil and the two Fantastic Four movies, and it's a helluva lot better than those.
Have you seen the Director's Cut of Daredevil? It's actually rather good.
One good thing about the movie is that Affleck met his future wife Jennifer Garner in it.
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Old September 3 2013, 10:35 PM   #1133
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Hans Zimmer talks about the Batman/Superman movie and while he doesn't outright confirm he's going to do it, it sounds likely.

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Old September 3 2013, 11:17 PM   #1134
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Yup, I just rewatched Daredevil and the two Fantastic Four movies, and it's a helluva lot better than those.
Have you seen the Director's Cut of Daredevil? It's actually rather good.
One good thing about the movie is that Affleck met his future wife Jennifer Garner in it.
I haven't seen Daredevil since it was in theaters, but I'd have to say that Affleck and Garner looked like they were made for each other.
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Old September 3 2013, 11:29 PM   #1135
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I know comic fans aren't too fond of it, but I thought the playground scene was one of the best and more charming parts of the movie.
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Old September 3 2013, 11:29 PM   #1136
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I still haven't seen GL. I really must get round to it.
I actually liked GL and really never understood why it gets bashed so much.
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Old September 3 2013, 11:34 PM   #1137
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I know comic fans aren't too fond of it, but I thought the playground scene was one of the best and more charming parts of the movie.
I really need to see that movie again, but as I remember it the playground scene was pretty good.

Maybe my problem is with Affleck's acting. He doesn't come across to me as the SUPERHERO type.

As I said, I'll have to watch Daredevil again. But I don't have high hopes for the MOS sequel.
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Old September 4 2013, 01:35 AM   #1138
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Yup, I just rewatched Daredevil and the two Fantastic Four movies, and it's a helluva lot better than those.
Have you seen the Director's Cut of Daredevil? It's actually rather good.
No, no it's not. It's "better than the theatrical" cut but it's still a pretty crappy movie.
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Old September 4 2013, 03:09 AM   #1139
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Green Lantern was a weird movie for several reasons. I don't think the director, Martin Campbell, understood the tone that was needed for that kind of movie. I think he understands James Bond, but Green Lantern is another matter.

Tonally, the movie was all over the place. Plus, you had Ryan Reynolds, who despite his best intentions was miscast. The movie tried to be at times a serious comic-book movie, a space opera, with some light-hearted humor, and it just didn't work. Campbell and his writers needed to find a tone and stick with it. It didn't help that it tried to be serious, but then had really dumb scenes where Hal Jordan tries to activate the suit and show off to his friend.

The writing could have been a lot better, too. It had some good moments (the Hal Jordan/Carol Ferris dynamic was good, and Reynolds does try with the dramatic stuff) but the handling of the villains was really cliche and over-the-top. It doesn't help that Peter Sarsgaard delivers a completely over-the-top performance, and I think that's hugely as a result of the tone that's completely all over the place. When the film opens, and we have bad CGI, voice-over narration and weird aliens, I thought the movie was going to embrace the nuttiness of the premise, but then it tried to blend in half-baked drama, and it just didn't work.

With comic-book movies, you have to fully commit to your world (tone and all). That's why Christopher Nolan went with a realistic approach to his Batman movies. Regardless of anything, they are tonally consistent. The person above me mentioned Guardians of the Galaxy, and that's a good example of staying true to the premise, tone and reality of the world you are existing in. It seems like James Gunn is going all out, which you have to do if you're going to do a kind of movie like that. Batman is of course much easier to adapt than Green Lantern or Guardians of the Galaxy, but that's why understanding the tone is that much more paramount.
Personally, I really liked the Green Lantern movie. It was really fun for someone who knows the comics. But, using my wife as a judge, for someone not familiar with the source material it was like two different movies. My wife loves sci fi and comic book movies but she is not a fanatic. When I watch a movie with her I get a really great second opinion of the actual quality of the FILM rather than my fan boy opinion.

For Shazam!, the movie could have been entirely space opera. The problem was that it tried to incorporate too much of the GL Mythos and failed. If it had been set on Earth OR in space I think it would have had a better chance at financial success.
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Old September 4 2013, 04:04 AM   #1140
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I still haven't seen GL. I really must get round to it.
I actually liked GL and really never understood why it gets bashed so much.
I agree.
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