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View Poll Results: Favorite Star Trek Director?
Robert Wise (The Motion Picture) 9 12.33%
Nicholas Meyer (The Wrath of Khan, The Undiscovered Country) 33 45.21%
Leonard Nimoy (The Search for Spock, The Voyage Home) 7 9.59%
William Shatner (The Final Frontier) 3 4.11%
David Carson (Generations) 1 1.37%
Jonathan Frakes (First Contact, Insurrection) 6 8.22%
Stuart Baird (Nemesis) 0 0%
J.J. Abrams (Star Trek [2009], Into Darkness) 14 19.18%
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Old September 3 2013, 01:37 AM   #46
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Re: Favorite Star Trek film director?

Rush Limborg wrote: View Post
^Agreed. As I've said a LOT--many of the deleted scenes were frankly necessary for characterization, especially if they were gonna market it as "a generation's final journey". Picard's toast with Data...Beverly's send-off, Deanna's explanation why she couldn't read whether Shinzon was lying...Worf learning to overcome his prejudices when a Romulan doctor saves his life.

The problem wasn't Logan's script--and I think we can all agree now that it CERTAINLY wasn't Tom Hardy...it was Baird's directing choices, particularly to "tone down" the characterizations and cut down the story to its bare bones.
^ Indeed. It turned from a half/emotional story about there final journey, what it should have been, to an action movie that implied it wasn't the last movie, even though it most certainly was.....
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Old September 3 2013, 02:38 AM   #47
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Agree with the previous two posters regarding Nemesis.

Fortunately, even though much of the character-oriented material was excised from the final film, it was shot and does still exist. Some of it has been seen on the DVD releases. I would like to see someone -- not Stuart Baird -- go back and try and do a different cut of Nemesis which focused on the characters and the story of their final journey more than the action. I think it could be done quite successfully.
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Agree with the previous two posters regarding Nemesis.

Fortunately, even though much of the character-oriented material was excised from the final film, it was shot and does still exist. Some of it has been seen on the DVD releases. I would like to see someone -- not Stuart Baird -- go back and try and do a different cut of Nemesis which focused on the characters and the story of their final journey more than the action. I think it could be done quite successfully.
This could be fantastic if done correctly. I would love to see it.
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