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Old September 2 2013, 11:17 PM   #31
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Conservation of energy is pretty useless if you want immortality. If you burn a book, the total energy of the system is conserved, but the actual content of the book is lost.

What would be much more interesting would be if there is some kind of law of conservation of information beyond the simple conservation of energy. But as of now it's still an open problem, especially if you take into consideration the quirks of quantum mechanics.
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Old September 2 2013, 11:17 PM   #32
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Conservation of energy is pretty useless if you want immortality. If you burn a book, the total energy of the system is conserved, but the actual content of the book is lost.

What would be much more interesting would be if there is some kind of law of conservation of information beyond the simple conservation of energy. But as of now it's still an open problem, especially if you take into consideration the quirks of quantum mechanics.
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Old September 2 2013, 11:18 PM   #33
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^Explanation so good, he had to post it twice.
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Old September 2 2013, 11:23 PM   #34
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What happens after death?

I believe we move on to whatever is next.

I don't claim to know what that is, but I believe it's there.
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Old September 2 2013, 11:25 PM   #35
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^Is that why everyone was someone famous in their past life? Because they're all the same soul?
well i could've said neil hewett was once franz bauer and miranda neville-hyde but no one would know i was giving an example of going backwards through time
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Old September 2 2013, 11:29 PM   #36
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A law of conservation of information is a great way to look at it, but I think we are a long way away from creating any kind of equation for it.
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Old September 2 2013, 11:33 PM   #37
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^Explanation so good, he had to post it twice.
LOL, it happens to me all the time, I often have to go back and delete the double post. So far nobody has been able to fix it.

I guess I'm so good the board always wants me two times in a row.
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Old September 2 2013, 11:36 PM   #38
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your double posting is probably caused by the law of conservation of information and anti-time
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Old September 2 2013, 11:52 PM   #39
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I found this to be a really interesting article on the realities of death. It also discusses NDEs somewhat, but is mainly about a) dispelling the myth that "death" is a specific moment in time, and b) that what we think of as death is, in many cases, reversible, even with current (or soon-to-be-available) technology and techniques.
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Old September 2 2013, 11:53 PM   #40
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Einstein's theory that "Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another"
Try a few centuries before him. Leibniz was the first to postulate the idea of conservation of energy (which he called vis viva) in the 17th century.
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Old September 3 2013, 12:02 AM   #41
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Mhm. The point is, Einstein never "invented" conservation of energy, nor he ever claimed to. It has been a well-established law of physics for at least 200 years when he was still a student. Einstein's work was in a completely different field.

You just remembered it wrong.
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Old September 3 2013, 12:12 AM   #42
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In a past life, I was Leonard Nimoy.
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Old September 3 2013, 12:12 AM   #43
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Mhm. The point is, Einstein never "invented" conservation of energy, nor he ever claimed to. It has been a well-established law of physics for at least 200 years when he was still a student. Einstein's work was in a completely different field. You just remembered it wrong.
I stand corrected (well, I sit). I blame the law of conservation of information.
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Old September 3 2013, 12:43 AM   #44
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Mhm. The point is, Einstein never "invented" conservation of energy, nor he ever claimed to. It has been a well-established law of physics for at least 200 years when he was still a student. Einstein's work was in a completely different field. You just remembered it wrong.
I stand corrected (well, I sit). I blame the law of conservation of information.
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Old September 3 2013, 12:57 AM   #45
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At the root, behind the trunk, and hidden among the foliage.
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