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Old September 2 2013, 04:30 PM   #1171
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I would imagine those are code names. Note the "Yankee Stadium Exterior".
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Old September 2 2013, 04:31 PM   #1172
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Who ever did the 'length' comparisons for that image is wrong. First it says the Enterprise is about the Length of the Chrysler Building which is only around 319m,
This is the problem in a nutshell. The length is wildly inconsistent.
Which obviously isn't the real world Chrysler Building as the drawing mentions it being 751 meters.
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Old September 2 2013, 04:33 PM   #1173
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I would imagine those are code names. Note the "Yankee Stadium Exterior".
That was my impression too.
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Old September 2 2013, 04:36 PM   #1174
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I would imagine those are code names. Note the "Yankee Stadium Exterior".
That was my impression too.
I totally missed that.
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Old September 2 2013, 04:39 PM   #1175
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I would imagine those are code names. Note the "Yankee Stadium Exterior".
That was my impression too.
I totally missed that.
I remember an ILM size chart, back in the XI days, calling the Narada Hansen's Ranch, the Enterprise Cantina and the Kelvin Sweet Judy. I still have it somewhere.

edit: Here it is

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Old September 2 2013, 04:41 PM   #1176
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Who ever did the 'length' comparisons for that image is wrong. First it says the Enterprise is about the Length of the Chrysler Building which is only around 319m,
This is the problem in a nutshell. The length is wildly inconsistent.
Those are just code names used during production. The Enterprise was referred to as the Crysler Building, the Vengeance was called Trump Towers. It's part of their OCD security. You'll see in the Art of the Film book that Star Trek (2009) was referred to as "Corporate Headquarters" complete with faux logo (and in their size charts, the Kelvin was "Sweet Judy" and the Narada "Hansens Ranch", the shuttle hangar at the academy was "Tonto's Stage Coach Shop"), and in the concept art for Into Darkness, the film is referred to by the code name "Project HH"

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Old September 2 2013, 04:53 PM   #1177
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This thread reminds me of that movie 'Shallow Hal'.
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Old September 2 2013, 10:05 PM   #1178
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Who ever did the 'length' comparisons for that image is wrong. First it says the Enterprise is about the Length of the Chrysler Building which is only around 319m,
This is the problem in a nutshell. The length is wildly inconsistent.
Those are just code names used during production. The Enterprise was referred to as the Crysler Building, the Vengeance was called Trump Towers. It's part of their OCD security. You'll see in the Art of the Film book that Star Trek (2009) was referred to as "Corporate Headquarters" complete with faux logo (and in their size charts, the Kelvin was "Sweet Judy" and the Narada "Hansens Ranch", the shuttle hangar at the academy was "Tonto's Stage Coach Shop"), and in the concept art for Into Darkness, the film is referred to by the code name "Project HH"

EDIT: Ninja'd by everyone.
That makes more sense.
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Old October 1 2013, 12:39 PM   #1179
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Sorry to bump this, but does anyone know for sure how big the "Military Transport" shuttles are? I'd been assuming 40ft/12m as per the two size charts in the art book, but I just bumped (back) into THIS article which claims the shuttles are only 30ft long. At that size there is suddenly a LOT more room for them in the engineering hull, and overlaid pictures with a 725m Enterprise much better resemble what we saw on-screen in ST and ID.
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Old October 1 2013, 01:18 PM   #1180
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Oh, and here's that comparison of Enterprise schematics I meant to post earlier. As you can see, there is a lot of variation. The Bluray art looks to me to be closest to the actual CG model from the movie.
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Old October 1 2013, 04:35 PM   #1181
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If it's the actual model, why does it not have the "NCC-1701" markings on the nacelle?
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Old October 1 2013, 10:12 PM   #1182
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I guess they didn't have all the decals on when they rendered it
IIRC, they're originally from a Cenefax interview with Ryan Church.
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Old October 5 2013, 09:31 PM   #1183
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Old October 17 2013, 10:29 AM   #1184
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I actually don't give a crap how big Enterprise is. As long as it sticks to the basic design. So what if it's 700m / 800m / 350m long ? It doesn't matter - it doesn't exist.

When go to see Star trek - I expect the Enterprise to be in it. I care 0% about how big it is. It's science fiction. It's not meant to be 100% plausible or scientifically sound.
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Could it have been? I liked the scene cause it was a very father and son moment. I think losing that scene would have lessened the impact of Pike killed later, as well as the "grown up decision" of Kirk to take Khan into custody over gunning him down as ordered.
I love the scenes in question but I think the whole "Kirk gets demoted" subplot wasn't handled very well. He's a "Captain", then a "Cadet", then a "Commander/First Officer" then a "Captain" again in a span of about ten minutes. It was awkwardly structured and I think they could've done it better and given us the same father/son and death scenes.
That is true, there's a better way it could have been handled. Slowed it down. But with the pacing as it is, the scene is needed.

Maybe have sent Pike after Khan, Kirk as XO, Pike dies restarting the core, Kirk gets the Enterprise back for the 5 year mission at the very end.
No, not die, but...

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