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Old September 1 2013, 03:59 AM   #31
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Re: Barely-legible graphics canon?

I almost forgot the increasingly-obvious use of stunt doubles in TOS! Is it canon that Spock's hair turns curly when he fights?
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Old September 1 2013, 04:05 AM   #32
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Re: Barely-legible graphics canon?

Like I said, the canon is the story being told, not the niggling details of the telling.
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Old September 1 2013, 04:11 AM   #33
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Imagine if blooper reels were canon.
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Old September 1 2013, 04:19 AM   #34
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I almost forgot the increasingly-obvious use of stunt doubles in TOS! Is it canon that Spock's hair turns curly when he fights?
That's his cousin Carl.

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Old September 1 2013, 04:23 AM   #35
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Carl originated the phrase, "Play that funky music, white boy!"
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Old September 1 2013, 04:32 AM   #36
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Spock plays funky music without encouragement.



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Old September 1 2013, 04:44 AM   #37
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To paraphrase Maynard G. Krebs, "Like, cool, daddy-o."

Or maybe that should be Dobie-O.
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Old September 1 2013, 07:22 AM   #38
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Re: Barely-legible graphics canon?

Canon considerations should be as directly related to the legibility of the graphics.
For example, with the release of TNG on Bluray, a lot of screen details just went from "suspected canon" to "supercanon."
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Old September 1 2013, 08:28 AM   #39
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Who's to say that there isn't a large duck on the Enterprise? It could be the kiddie swimming pool with a slide down the neck. No reason there couldn't be.

Some people, like Christopher, go for the broad strokes approach. The stories play out pretty much as we see but some of the details are a little fuzzy. Me, I prefer the "everything happened as we saw it" approach. Just because we can't work out all the hows and whys doesn't mean that we have to gloss over parts of it. ""It's a big galaxy Mr. Scott" Expand that idea to a multiverse and there's more than enough room for all the various stories, even the ones that appear to be contradictory. No need to rewrite the past. Make a copy and make your changes there. Was Khan a product of eugenics or genetic engineering? Yes to both, depending on which universe you're in. Why did the Enterprise-A travel to the center of the galaxy in a matter of hours or days when it would take Voyager decades to travel the same distance. Different universe with different laws of physics, at least where FTL travel is concerned.

The whole idea of a prime universe which somehow sits above all the others is so limiting. No version of approved Star Trek is better or worse, more valid or important than any other. Enjoy your episodes, movies, comics and books. Fit it together however you like and don't worry about what someone decides is or isn't part of the whole tapestry.
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Old September 1 2013, 10:43 AM   #40
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I prefer the "if I don't think about it, the details don't hurt as much," approach.
Though I do believe in the duck. The duck has gotta exist. If you can believe there's a superpowered Android, a functioning holodeck, warp drive and all the other magic, a giant duck is completely conceivable.

Don't contradictions appear in real life as well?
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Old September 1 2013, 10:50 AM   #41
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Re: Barely-legible graphics canon?

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Canon considerations should be as directly related to the legibility of the graphics.
For example, with the release of TNG on Bluray, a lot of screen details just went from "suspected canon" to "supercanon."
Apparently, people in the future write with numbers and not words
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Old September 1 2013, 11:22 AM   #42
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Heck, I was the first novelist to mention Admiral Robert Comsol in a Star Trek novel, something you should appreciate.
Well, I would if I knew first in what kind of context you presented him.
Chances are that in future depictions he's gonna meet the same fate as Dr. Carol Marcus did in ST III, right?

Since you addressed "canon" in broader terms than just the barely legible graphics I responded accordingly.

But I realize I've been way too patient and fair regarding the myth that the TOS Enterprise is a member of the "Constitution Class".

Since prior to ST VI the only hint is a footnote (!) on a small monitor display (only indicating the primary phaser of a Constitution Class starship), which could be an inside joke, we can now finally get rid of this myth?

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Old September 1 2013, 02:37 PM   #43
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Wouldn't that eliminate the plaque calling the ship "Starship class", too? I guess the Enterprise is like Summer. No class.
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Old September 1 2013, 03:11 PM   #44
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Anyone have the screenshot of the gerbil on the wheel that runs the Enterprise-D?
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Old September 1 2013, 06:06 PM   #45
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Like I said, the canon is the story being told, not the niggling details of the telling.
Well, please excuse the rest of us as we go on haggling over niggling details.
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