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Old August 31 2013, 06:31 PM   #31
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Re: Embarassing moments during good episodes

I cant remember the Episode, but when Kirk starts spouting shit about, to paraphrase, "No frantic dancing" and "Not too much deck tennis", I had to check it wasn't a 1930s British Ealing Comedy.

Cringeworthily bad dialogue.
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Old August 31 2013, 07:17 PM   #32
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I cant remember the Episode, but when Kirk starts spouting shit about, to paraphrase, "No frantic dancing" and "Not too much deck tennis", I had to check it wasn't a 1930s British Ealing Comedy.

Cringeworthily bad dialogue.


100% agree----terrible, terible dialogue from Balence of Terror I believe.
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Old August 31 2013, 09:09 PM   #33
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^ I love that scene in Balance of Terror

Although admittedly it's what McCoy says next that I really love

""In this galaxy, there's a mathematical probability of three million earth-type planets...and in all the universe, three million million galaxies like this one. And in all of that, and perhaps more, only one of each of us. Don't destroy the one named Kirk."

I don't even know if it really has anything to do with what Kirk said but it's such a beautiful quote.

I like what Kirk said too though, maybe it is Shatner's delivery but I thought it was a really nice line.
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Old August 31 2013, 11:28 PM   #34
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I cant remember the Episode, but when Kirk starts spouting shit about, to paraphrase, "No frantic dancing" and "Not too much deck tennis", I had to check it wasn't a 1930s British Ealing Comedy.

Cringeworthily bad dialogue.
Maybe it was directly lifted from "The Enemy Below".
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Old September 1 2013, 12:00 AM   #35
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Re: Embarassing moments during good episodes

While maybe not embarassing but in the epsode That Which Survives Kirk is a real jerk to Sulu and bites his head off 2 or 3 times when Sulu asks a question. The way Kirk treats Sulu in that episode does make me cringe.

here is one of the sayings.


"Mister Sulu, if I'd wanted a Russian history lesson, I'd have brought along Mister Chekov."
- Kirk, after Sulu refers to the Tunguska blast of Siberia
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Old September 1 2013, 11:37 AM   #36
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Re: Embarassing moments during good episodes

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While maybe not embarassing but in the epsode That Which Survives Kirk is a real jerk to Sulu and bites his head off 2 or 3 times when Sulu asks a question. The way Kirk treats Sulu in that episode does make me cringe.

here is one of the sayings.


"Mister Sulu, if I'd wanted a Russian history lesson, I'd have brought along Mister Chekov."
- Kirk, after Sulu refers to the Tunguska blast of Siberia
So is Spock in that same episode. He is so pedantic correcting everyone to two decimal places. Even to Scotty - a senior Officer.
If I were Scotty in that episode I would have punched Spock - he deserved it.

I don't regard this as a good episode because of this
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Old September 1 2013, 02:13 PM   #37
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"Mister Sulu, if I'd wanted a Russian history lesson, I'd have brought along Mister Chekov."
- Kirk, after Sulu refers to the Tunguska blast of Siberia
Well, DiAmato thought it was funny. Kirk was often snippy with the crew. I forget the episode, but he once told Sulu to "Mind your helm" when Sulu thought he was offering an important observation. He jumped all over Uhura in Journey to Babel when she failed to switch to the internal locator when searching for the spy's transmission (at least he had a reason for that one).
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Old September 1 2013, 02:27 PM   #38
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While maybe not embarassing but in the epsode That Which Survives Kirk is a real jerk to Sulu and bites his head off 2 or 3 times when Sulu asks a question. The way Kirk treats Sulu in that episode does make me cringe.

here is one of the sayings.


"Mister Sulu, if I'd wanted a Russian history lesson, I'd have brought along Mister Chekov."
- Kirk, after Sulu refers to the Tunguska blast of Siberia
Maybe everyone was just really overdue for some shore leave, Spock included.
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Old September 1 2013, 03:20 PM   #39
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I always thought Spock was horribly annoying in that episode. Maybe Kirk was so snippy because he wished Spock were there...?
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Old September 1 2013, 09:39 PM   #40
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When I was a little kid, I was kinda embarrassed by Kirk being apparently naked in the android creating machine in What Are Little Girls Made Of?
I thought Shatner looked pretty good implicitly naked and in semi-bondage. And I'm not even gay!

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I cant remember the Episode, but when Kirk starts spouting shit about, to paraphrase, "No frantic dancing" and "Not too much deck tennis", I had to check it wasn't a 1930s British Ealing Comedy.
Cringeworthily bad dialogue.
100% agree----terrible, terible dialogue from Balance of Terror I believe.
Here's the exact dialogue:
KIRK: I wish I were on a long sea voyage somewhere. Not too much deck tennis, no frantic dancing, and no responsibility. Why me? I look around that Bridge, and I see the men waiting for me to make the next move. And Bones, what if I'm wrong?
MCCOY: Captain, I --
KIRK: No, I don't really expect an answer.
I love that scene. It gives us insight into Kirk's character, his almost obsessive need for command together with his penchant for self-doubt and occasionally wishing he could just chuck it all. We hear similar sentiments in Kirk's "No beach to walk on" speech in "The Naked Time" and Capt. Pike's exchange with Dr. Boyce in "The Cage."

Or will deck tennis and frantic dancing be obsolete in the 23rd century?
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Old September 1 2013, 10:38 PM   #41
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In the episode "The Squire of Gothos," DeForest Kelley refers to a secondary character as "Jaeger," with a hard "J" sound. Everyone else in the episode pronounces it like "Yeager."

And in "Balance of Terror," in at least one scene, Kelley (again) pronounces the name of the commander of the Fesarius, Balok, as something like "Baal-lik," while everyone else pronounces it "Bay-lock."

Now, neither of these are embarassing, just curious. What happened? Production pressures cutting into rehearsal time?
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Old September 1 2013, 10:42 PM   #42
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Well, Kelley did have such a hard time pronouncing "gumato" for "A Private Little War" that it was changed to "mugatu" during production.
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Old September 1 2013, 10:44 PM   #43
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Kirk's dialogue is specifically referencing a sea voyage (not a space voyage), so it seems fine for what it is...probably a historical reference on his part (he was something of a history/antiquities buff), but it's possible that Earth and/or other worlds in the 23rd century have "old-style" sea voyages as a tourist attraction.
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Old September 1 2013, 10:46 PM   #44
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He did it in the movies, too, Skipper. Mount "Suh-LEE-uh" instead of "Seh-LAY-Ah", for instance.

And it was "BAH-lock".
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Old September 2 2013, 12:55 AM   #45
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Nerys Myk wrote: View Post
Maybe it was directly lifted from "The Enemy Below".
I don't think so, but there were definitely similar scenes.

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He did it in the movies, too, Skipper. Mount "Suh-LEE-uh" instead of "Seh-LAY-Ah", for instance.

And it was "BAH-lock".
And in "Journey to Babel":
Amanda: Well, he did have a pet (SAY-lot) he was very fond of.
McCoy: (Sellut)?
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