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Old August 31 2013, 08:05 AM   #46
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Re: Have the Galaxy Class got a fatal design flaw?

Surely a full volley of photon torpedo's plus firing all phaser banks that were facing the BoP would have blown it away. Just about the only time we saw the Ent-D using more than the main phaser banks was in "Q Who"
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Old August 31 2013, 08:28 AM   #47
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Were probably upgraded by the tech wizard Soran.
Now you're just giving a movie credit for something that wasn't even in the movie.
Furstratingly not in the movie. One or two lines of dialogue explaining that either the Enterprise had lost weapons, or that Soran had upgraded the BoPs shields, and this particular weird aspect to the battle would barely be discussed!
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Old August 31 2013, 03:44 PM   #48
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Were probably upgraded by the tech wizard Soran.
Now you're just giving a movie credit for something that wasn't even in the movie.
Furstratingly not in the movie. One or two lines of dialogue explaining that either the Enterprise had lost weapons, or that Soran had upgraded the BoPs shields, and this particular weird aspect to the battle would barely be discussed!
So very true. I was never a big fan of the Enterprise D, but she deserved better than being taken out by a little Bird of Prey ship.

Without those few lines of dialogue, I wish the sisters had been in a full size Klingon Battle Cruiser at least.
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Old August 31 2013, 06:08 PM   #49
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I agree that a few lines of Dialog would have helped, Even just Having Worf saying something like "Our phasers are not penetrating their sheilds" in a surprised tone would have helped, and alluded to the fact that Soran must have helped the Duras Sisters modify their BOP somehow. As it stands, we have what we see on screen, so my explination makes the most sense to me personally. But I'm with the Majority that the Enterprise-D deserved better.
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Old August 31 2013, 06:13 PM   #50
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Yes.. it deserved to be in a better movie. That was the design flaw that was exploited, leading to it's death.
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Old August 31 2013, 06:27 PM   #51
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And the shape is rather awkward.
Since it isn't meant to be flown in the atmosphere, I'd say the shape is rather irrelevant to the conversation.
Actually, it can be made to fly aerodynamically. Just not for very long.

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Old August 31 2013, 06:35 PM   #52
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^ Wow, that was awesome.
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Old September 8 2013, 08:35 AM   #53
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^^Highly cool!
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Old September 8 2013, 08:36 AM   #54
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Yes.. it deserved to be in a better movie. That was the design flaw that was exploited, leading to it's death.
The motivation to destroy the ship was crass... Moore and Braga were tired of it and wanted a "cooler" ship. I've never forgiven them for that!
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Old September 8 2013, 04:19 PM   #55
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The motivation to destroy the ship was crass... Moore and Braga were tired of it and wanted a "cooler" ship. I've never forgiven them for that!
I always thought it was "the TV sets won't hold up on-screen". Which is why Generations had to be so dimly lit, too...
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Old September 8 2013, 05:48 PM   #56
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...which I still think is crap. I think the darkness was just for drama. The E sets were pretty dark too. And lest we forget, the E's sickbay was (in FC and INS at least) a fairly straightforward reuse of the VGR set.
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Old September 8 2013, 06:19 PM   #57
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And lest we forget, the E's sickbay was (in FC and INS at least) a fairly straightforward reuse of the VGR set.
True, though that was one set seen very briefly versus... well, all of them after the prologue aboard the -B. And given that the Voyager sets were constructed after Generations was shot, they may have been built to a higher standard with future film use in mind.
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Old September 8 2013, 08:40 PM   #58
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Granted. My point was simply that blowing up the ship because the producers didn't like the sets were stupid. The gap between TV and film was somewhat lesser for TNG than it was for, say, TOS. GENS also proved pretty handily that the D six-footer looked amazing on the big screen. It would have been easy to wreck the bridge and build a new one, and refurbish the other sets as needed.

Personally, though, I think they looked great.
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