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View Poll Results: On What Would You Like A New Trek Series Based?
A Starship 38 65.52%
A Fleet 7 12.07%
A Station 2 3.45%
A Colony 7 12.07%
Other (please specify) 4 6.90%
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Old August 31 2013, 04:28 AM   #31
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Re: What Setting Would You Like For The Next Series?

What's the point of setting it in the Star Trek universe if you aren't going to use elements from the Star Trek universe?
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Old August 31 2013, 04:30 AM   #32
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What happens in STO stays in STO.

For the love of God...
It wouldn't be based on any events in STO other then the Klingons breaking away from the treaty.....

And I agree.
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Old August 31 2013, 05:13 PM   #33
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What's the point of setting it in the Star Trek universe if you aren't going to use elements from the Star Trek universe?
Last I checked the universe is pretty big. You don't need different people(or different actors) doing the same things over, just slightly differently. Not if you're trying to tell a story that hasn't been done before. You say TOS is your favorite series, well it was them going after new things. Isn't that what you want from a future things instead of a rehash of the TOS days?

You can tie in to existing plot elements without blatantly ripping them off too. Doing a tribble episode just to do a tribble episode is fairly pointless as it's been done before. We don't need to be reminded that tribbles put rabbits to shame in breeding and don't like Klingons and coo soothingly. We know that already, another episode about it is redundant.
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Old August 31 2013, 05:28 PM   #34
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We know that already, another episode about it is redundant.
Which is the problem with having yet another weekly Trek TV series. Whether intentional or not, you are going to be constantly doing things that the other TV series have covered in painful detail. Yes, you'll be able to create new bumpy headed aliens but it'll just be variations of themes we've already seen.

I remember reading that the whole idea behind Voyager was moving away from what we already knew yet they were using Klingons and Vulcans. Then they had intermittent contact with the known Trek universe throughout the series which defeated the purpose of it to begin with.

If you want Trek then want Trek. Don't claim to want something new because you simply aren't going to get it. The whole reason behind doing Trek yet again would be to draw on those seven-hundred plus hours of material.

Trek set in a law firm isn't Trek. Trek as a situation comedy isn't Trek. Trek as a political drama isn't Trek. Trek as a spy drama isn't Trek. Star Trek is an open enough format that yes it can do those types of stories from time to time but there will never be a series that is formatted as anyone of those things.

YMMV.
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Old August 31 2013, 06:03 PM   #35
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Wow, I guess DS9 wasn't Trek then. Any more pearls of wisdom on the religion of Trek? I just want 45 minutes of entertainment myself.
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Old August 31 2013, 06:12 PM   #36
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Wow, I guess DS9 wasn't Trek then. Any more pearls of wisdom on the religion of Trek? I just want 45 minutes of entertainment myself.
And you'll notice that Deep Space Nine had to add a badass starship and a character from TNG in order to try to keep the ratings from sliding (which didn't work).

'Religion' of Trek? I think you've got the wrong guy. I just ask myself this question: where can a new weekly Trek take me that the prior series haven't? Maybe I'm not very imaginative, but I'm not sure there is anyplace from a story perspective that Trek can take me that it hasn't already been and remain 'Star Trek'. Pretty much every series idea I see here does nothing but reinforce that perception.

So I have fun revisiting the various series from time-to-time, watch the new movies because they are welcome reunions with old friends and read an occasional novel. But I don't need to see new (regurgitated) episodes on TV every week to justify my love of the franchise.

Once again, your mileage may vary.
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Old August 31 2013, 06:20 PM   #37
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See? That's where you lose me. You say you want a new series with a starship exploring space, argue against anything different saying if you change it it isn't real Trek, yet also say you want it to take you new places and don't need to see regurgitated episodes. Yet a new series remixing the adventures of the prior series is just that.

Frankly I think we've gotten all the mileage we're going to get from the Starship exploring space. It was getting old with Voyager and got even worse with Enterprise, which incidentally got canceled. Into Darkness didn't give us a single thing we hadn't seen in some form or other either. They just cherry picked a few plot elements from the franchise, changed them to suit, put them all in a blender, mixed it up and presto! A "new" movie.

I promise you the Trek universe is big. It doesn't exist just on starships. There are planets, starbases, and all kinds of other places to explore even if it's not "boldly going into the unknown." The Trek universe is a setting in the end not the story into itself.
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Old August 31 2013, 06:24 PM   #38
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See? That's where you lose me. You say you want a new series with a starship exploring space, argue against anything different saying if you change it it isn't real Trek, yet also say you want it to take you new places and don't need to see regurgitated episodes. Yet a new series touching upon the adventures of the prior series is just that.
Actually, what I've said time and again is that I'd rather have something completely new than go to the Trek well again. But if we're going to get another Trek series, I want it to be recognizably "Star Trek". If I'm going to watch Star Trek I want it to be Star Trek. Not a cop show, a medical show, a spy show or a teen angst drama with a Star Trek coat of paint.


Frankly I think we've gotten all the mileage we're going to get from the Starship exploring space.
Then you really don't want another Star Trek series.
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See? That's where you lose me. You say you want a new series with a starship exploring space, argue against anything different saying if you change it it isn't real Trek, yet also say you want it to take you new places and don't need to see regurgitated episodes. Yet a new series touching upon the adventures of the prior series is just that.
Actually, what I've said time and again is that I'd rather have something completely new than go to the Trek well again. But if we're going to get another Trek series, I want it to be recognizably "Star Trek". If I'm going to watch Star Trek I want it to be Star Trek. Not a cop show, a medical show, a spy show or a teen angst drama with a Star Trek coat of paint.


Frankly I think we've gotten all the mileage we're going to get from the Starship exploring space.
Then you really don't want another Star Trek series.
So you define what Star Trek is alone and if I don't agree with you, I want the franchise to die? Oookay. Guess we've gone as far as we're going to with this discussion.
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So you define what Star Trek is alone and if I don't agree with you, I want the franchise to die? Oookay. Guess we've gone as far as we're going to with this discussion.
Then it really wasn't a discussion to begin with if you simply wanted someone to agree with you. My opinions on what constitutes Star Trek are every bit as valid as yours.
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Old August 31 2013, 06:40 PM   #41
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Yes they are. But when you start saying I want the franchise to die when I disagree with your vision of it and saying I'm just seeking agreement, that constitutes putting words in my mouth to advance your own opinion. So you could be just as guilty of what you're accusing me of in that regard.
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Old August 31 2013, 06:51 PM   #42
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Yes they are. But when you start saying I want the franchise to die when I disagree with your vision of it...
I don't think you want the franchise to die. But I think you want to keep it alive for the wrong reasons.

I jut don't understand why someone would want to strangle a new show with all of Trek's baggage, especially for a show that would have little to do with Trek other than running around in its clothes?
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Old August 31 2013, 08:43 PM   #43
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Well I'd like an animated series, preferably CGI set on NCC-1701 shortly after Into Darkness and exploring the nuVerse with new original episodes, revisiting old classics and an ongoing 'feud' with Khan who is 'rescued' and awoken by Klingons.

Aimed at kids/teens and it needs to keep us fanboys and adults entertained as well. (good luck with that )

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If there must be a live action show then I think the Prime Universe is done and dusted. It will never be visited again imho. Too much baggage.

The most likely option would be a show in the nuVerse (same time period as the movies) on another Fed ship that has a different design (Reliant? Excelsior?). It must be in the new continuity because it can use all the sets, costumes & props from the new movies simply redressed slightly where necessary. New standing sets would be required for Engineering and a mess hall. Shuttlecraft bay etc can be CGI.

The 'tech' will need to be updated and in many cases appear way beyond TNG. I am thinking the sort of cool gadgets we see in Prometheus and Avatar - something along those lines. The reason I say this is because the world is a very different place than it was in 1966 or 1987. Time to update the look & tech and add some stuff for away missions etc.
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No animated series.
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Old September 1 2013, 07:18 PM   #45
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I would definitely like to see it in the prime universe. (The J.J. Abrams movies are fun but I prefer the Trek I have history with.) I would like to see it on a starship. Maybe a cadet ship with some experienced crew and command but trainees (ala wrath of kahn enterprise) Maybe have someone from one of the Trek series as Captain. I would like to see them explore the remnants of Romulus and see what happened to the Empire after its destruction. I would like to see more exploration of the Alpha Quadrant. By the end of DS9 you would think we had explored it all. I remember in one of the TNG episodes of first season, saying we had only explored 14% of the galaxy. I doubt we covered the rest of the alpha quadrant in 15 years time.

I wouldn't mind seeing Starfleet with a new propulsion system that's faster than warp. Maybe a new transwarp drive that works. I would definitely like Ira Behr to produce it.
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