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View Poll Results: Rate Revelation and Dust.
Outstanding 29 25.66%
Above Average 45 39.82%
Average 26 23.01%
Below Average 7 6.19%
Poor 6 5.31%
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Old August 29 2013, 05:05 PM   #46
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Re: TF: Revelation and Dust by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!)

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I should not have read that spolier before I started the novel Saturday.
Same here, but I knew I was entering the thread at my own risk.
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Old August 29 2013, 05:29 PM   #47
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Re: TF: Revelation and Dust by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!)

Son of a bitch. That's the worst spoiler to know. Now the book is ruined.
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Old August 29 2013, 05:54 PM   #48
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I read David's interview at Trekcore discussing this novel and the other upcoming books.I though it was interesting how he commented about Kira's journey like the Ds9 mission gamma books lead to Ben Sisko's return in Unity.
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Old August 29 2013, 06:48 PM   #49
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Son of a bitch. That's the worst spoiler to know. Now the book is ruined.
Of course, you're in a REVIEW thread, which also says SPOILERS! in the title, so not sure what you were expecting, but that's kinda it. If you blew past the warnings, can't do much else to help. Very obviously enter at your own risk when you venture into spoiler threads for books or movies you haven't read/watched yet...
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Old August 29 2013, 06:57 PM   #50
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Son of a bitch. That's the worst spoiler to know. Now the book is ruined.
Of course, you're in a REVIEW thread, which also says SPOILERS! in the title, so not sure what you were expecting, but that's kinda it. If you blew past the warnings, can't do much else to help. Very obviously enter at your own risk when you venture into spoiler threads for books or movies you haven't read/watched yet...
Yes. I get that. But a plot point THAT important should be in code. I came here to get a feel for what others are saying about the book, and expect some spoilers. That one is a biggie.
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Old August 29 2013, 06:57 PM   #51
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I have a sneaking suspision that we might have a new RBoE-thing coming up. People judged that book completely by itself, even though it turned out later that DRGIII was going somewhere with it.

Since this is the first of a 5-book series, I think people need to realize that things that make NO sense whatsoever now, might make a lot of sense later on.

In retrospect, I shouldn't have voted just yet. I haven a tendency to not vote for a single volume of a series, untill after I read all of them. I did so with PoN/RtD, and I think I will refrain from voting on the other novels coming up.
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Old August 29 2013, 08:08 PM   #52
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Re: TF: Revelation and Dust by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!)

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Son of a bitch. That's the worst spoiler to know. Now the book is ruined.
Of course, you're in a REVIEW thread, which also says SPOILERS! in the title, so not sure what you were expecting, but that's kinda it. If you blew past the warnings, can't do much else to help. Very obviously enter at your own risk when you venture into spoiler threads for books or movies you haven't read/watched yet...
Yes. I get that. But a plot point THAT important should be in code. I came here to get a feel for what others are saying about the book, and expect some spoilers. That one is a biggie.
If you don't want to risk spoilers, don't go into spoiler threads. pretty straight-forward. It doesn't say MINOR spoliers, just spoilers. If you want to remain in the dark, the spoiler thread is a bad place to be.

Personally, I don't get that upset over spoilers. I'm in this thread and haven't read the book yet (should be here tonight). But then again, I care less about the 30 seconds of shock, and more about the couple hundred pages around it that LED to the moment. HOW it happens (and why, etc) is more important than knowing that it DOES happen.

Unless it's a gimmick thing like the Sixth Sense, the spoilers don't really matter to me. Enjoy the story.
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Old August 29 2013, 08:11 PM   #53
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Re: TF: Revelation and Dust by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!)

Maybe I am one of the few that thought Bacco was an effective president, given what she had to deal with?
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Old August 29 2013, 08:39 PM   #54
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Of course, you're in a REVIEW thread, which also says SPOILERS! in the title, so not sure what you were expecting, but that's kinda it. If you blew past the warnings, can't do much else to help. Very obviously enter at your own risk when you venture into spoiler threads for books or movies you haven't read/watched yet...
Yes. I get that. But a plot point THAT important should be in code. I came here to get a feel for what others are saying about the book, and expect some spoilers. That one is a biggie.
If you don't want to risk spoilers, don't go into spoiler threads. pretty straight-forward. It doesn't say MINOR spoliers, just spoilers. If you want to remain in the dark, the spoiler thread is a bad place to be.

Personally, I don't get that upset over spoilers. I'm in this thread and haven't read the book yet (should be here tonight). But then again, I care less about the 30 seconds of shock, and more about the couple hundred pages around it that LED to the moment. HOW it happens (and why, etc) is more important than knowing that it DOES happen.

Unless it's a gimmick thing like the Sixth Sense, the spoilers don't really matter to me. Enjoy the story.
So why do we have spoiler code? We just had a thread about when to use them and stop using them. The consensus was that we should stop when a book hits the 6 month mark. This novel hasn't been out six minutes.

And no offense to the poster who just joined three days ago, if you don't know how to use a function, wouldn't it be wise to find out how before to do that before dropping something like that in a novel this new. I just think that we shouldn't start a precedence.

If not then we shouldn't bother with spoiler code at all. Here's a link to the thread about spoilers.

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=223141
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Old August 29 2013, 09:32 PM   #55
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Re: TF: Revelation and Dust by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!)

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Yes. I get that. But a plot point THAT important should be in code. I came here to get a feel for what others are saying about the book, and expect some spoilers. That one is a biggie.
If you don't want to risk spoilers, don't go into spoiler threads. pretty straight-forward. It doesn't say MINOR spoliers, just spoilers. If you want to remain in the dark, the spoiler thread is a bad place to be.

Personally, I don't get that upset over spoilers. I'm in this thread and haven't read the book yet (should be here tonight). But then again, I care less about the 30 seconds of shock, and more about the couple hundred pages around it that LED to the moment. HOW it happens (and why, etc) is more important than knowing that it DOES happen.

Unless it's a gimmick thing like the Sixth Sense, the spoilers don't really matter to me. Enjoy the story.
So why do we have spoiler code? We just had a thread about when to use them and stop using them. The consensus was that we should stop when a book hits the 6 month mark. This novel hasn't been out six minutes.

And no offense to the poster who just joined three days ago, if you don't know how to use a function, wouldn't it be wise to find out how before to do that before dropping something like that in a novel this new. I just think that we shouldn't start a precedence.

If not then we shouldn't bother with spoiler code at all. Here's a link to the thread about spoilers.

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=223141
Cheers for hightlighting that thread.

As for your opinion over the spoiler, have you not heard of common sense?

This is a thread about a book that has just been released, thus not everyone has read it, like yourself and myself and if you don't want to be spoiled don't bloody well read the thread. I probably should have qualified in that other thread that it was concerning books that have been out a while when discussing them away from the main spoiler filled discussion thread.

It was your own fault (as my own fault) for reading that spoiler, no one else's. So yes, have you heard of common sense?
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Old August 30 2013, 02:17 AM   #56
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I bought the ebook today, but I think I'll wait until a few more of the books are out before I read it.
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Old August 30 2013, 02:27 AM   #57
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Re: TF: Revelation and Dust by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!)

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Yes. I get that. But a plot point THAT important should be in code. I came here to get a feel for what others are saying about the book, and expect some spoilers. That one is a biggie.
If you don't want to risk spoilers, don't go into spoiler threads. pretty straight-forward. It doesn't say MINOR spoliers, just spoilers. If you want to remain in the dark, the spoiler thread is a bad place to be.

Personally, I don't get that upset over spoilers. I'm in this thread and haven't read the book yet (should be here tonight). But then again, I care less about the 30 seconds of shock, and more about the couple hundred pages around it that LED to the moment. HOW it happens (and why, etc) is more important than knowing that it DOES happen.

Unless it's a gimmick thing like the Sixth Sense, the spoilers don't really matter to me. Enjoy the story.
So why do we have spoiler code? We just had a thread about when to use them and stop using them. The consensus was that we should stop when a book hits the 6 month mark. This novel hasn't been out six minutes.

And no offense to the poster who just joined three days ago, if you don't know how to use a function, wouldn't it be wise to find out how before to do that before dropping something like that in a novel this new. I just think that we shouldn't start a precedence.

If not then we shouldn't bother with spoiler code at all. Here's a link to the thread about spoilers.

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=223141
He did say that he didn't know how to use the spoiler and then said he was about to post a spoiler, so he didn't do anything wrong there.

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If you don't want to risk spoilers, don't go into spoiler threads. pretty straight-forward. It doesn't say MINOR spoliers, just spoilers. If you want to remain in the dark, the spoiler thread is a bad place to be.

Personally, I don't get that upset over spoilers. I'm in this thread and haven't read the book yet (should be here tonight). But then again, I care less about the 30 seconds of shock, and more about the couple hundred pages around it that LED to the moment. HOW it happens (and why, etc) is more important than knowing that it DOES happen.

Unless it's a gimmick thing like the Sixth Sense, the spoilers don't really matter to me. Enjoy the story.
That's pretty much my opinion on spoilers too. I'm more concerned with the whole book rather than just what happens in one or two scenes.
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Old August 30 2013, 02:45 AM   #58
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Halliwell (and everyone else who isn't sure) - spoiler code is for when you're wanting to post something that's a spoiler for either a book that isn't the one being discussed, or you're in a thread that isn't marked with spoilers.

If the thread title has "spoilers" in it, then the book is open for free and complete discussion and you do read at your own risk.
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At some point, it kinda feels like the Pocket Books folks are doing everything possible to go in a different direction from the background info from Star Trek Online, doesn't it? I mean I don't mind it, but it seems almost deliberate at this point.
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At some point, it kinda feels like the Pocket Books folks are doing everything possible to go in a different direction from the background info from Star Trek Online, doesn't it? I mean I don't mind it, but it seems almost deliberate at this point.
Rather, when Star Trek Online was created in 2009-10, its creators deliberately chose to contradict the direction the novels had already been going in for years. It borrowed some ideas and characters from the novels, like Titan and President Bacco, but it disregarded most of the DS9 post-finale series, the events of Destiny and the surrounding books, the novels' prior portrayals of races like Species 8472, and so on. STO chose to be a separate continuity from the start, and it and the novels have both been charting their own independent courses.
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