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Old August 29 2013, 12:39 AM   #16
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Re: Nintendo 2DS.

If it doesn't play Gameboy games, it's not a Gameboy, is it?

(At this point one might mention that the 3DS can, in fact, play Gameboy games via the Virtual Console.)
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Old August 29 2013, 12:46 AM   #17
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Re: Nintendo 2DS.

Well, I think the point is that it's Nintendo's handheld console. They don't have Gameboys anymore, they have the DS.
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Old August 29 2013, 12:46 AM   #18
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Re: Nintendo 2DS.

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Of course, the 3D isn't recommended for kids, either, so these parents might be right to be wary of the 3D and glad of the option.
And this is exactly who the new 2DS is intended for - children under the age of seven.
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Old August 29 2013, 01:20 AM   #19
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You know what would've been a better use of resources? Making a 3DS emulator for tablets that included a direct connection to their online shop and no 3D ability. Parents these days are giving kids all sorts of tech and tons of people pirate their games, so why not knock out two birds with one stone and make some money on a smart decision for once?

Of course, being a Japanese entertainment company, logic and international profitability is less of a priority than maintaining the "face" of the brand.
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Old August 29 2013, 02:12 AM   #20
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Re: Nintendo 2DS.

Keep in mind that none of us are exactly the target market for this device. It's totally geared towards the younger audience.

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So let's see if I have this straight.

+ $40 cheaper.
Plus for parents when looking at which one of the "3DS family" to buy.

- Doesn't fold. No protection for the screens and harder to transport.
One less moving part for kids to snap off or otherwise break. Though I admittedly don't know how much of an issue this is.

- No 3D.
Which they strongly recommend against using for kids under 7 anyways.

- Ugly design.
- Uncomfortable to use (especially the bottom touch screen).
Meh, I'll grant the ugly design. It does look a little weird, but uncomfortable? It looks like it might be difficult to control, but placed side by to side to the existing 3DS versions, it doesn't seem like it would be much different.

- Mono speakers.
On a device this size, does that matter? The two speakers would be right next to each other anyways. It still has stereo if you plug in headphones.

I can understand Nintendo wanting to make a cheaper 3DS for the holidays, but this is what they came up with? Why?
Cheaper to produce, cheaper to sell, geared towards kids. Not really seeing anything wrong with it.

Don't get me wrong, when I get around to buying a 3DS (for A Link Between Worlds), it's not going to be this version. But I'm not the target for this version.
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Old August 29 2013, 04:43 AM   #21
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Don't get me wrong, when I get around to buying a 3DS (for A Link Between Worlds), it's not going to be this version. But I'm not the target for this version.
I understand that I'm not the target demographic for this, but we're talking about a $40 price difference. That's nothing. If you want to buy a cheap 3DS for the kids, just go to Gamestop and pick up a used 3DS for around $100.

Nintendo tried this once before with the Wii Mini for $99. I wonder if that was successful.
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Old August 29 2013, 07:39 AM   #22
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Re: Nintendo 2DS.

They're still selling 200,000 Wiis, so perhaps it was successful? Besides, this isn't nearly as cut down as the Wii was, and the Wii makes sense insofar as parents might not want their kids accessing the internet in their rooms that way and they shut down a lot of their online services.

My nieces had DS Lites and DSis, one of them managed to break the hinge on one of each.

Also you going to Gamestop and buying a used 3DS doesn't make Nintendo money, hence a cheaper model that you can buy new will make them money.
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Old August 29 2013, 01:57 PM   #23
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Re: Nintendo 2DS.

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You know what would've been a better use of resources? Making a 3DS emulator for tablets that included a direct connection to their online shop and no 3D ability. Parents these days are giving kids all sorts of tech and tons of people pirate their games, so why not knock out two birds with one stone and make some money on a smart decision for once?

Of course, being a Japanese entertainment company, logic and international profitability is less of a priority than maintaining the "face" of the brand.
Nintendo is a hardware company. It would be totally senseless for them to undercut their hardware business by making 3DS games playable on non-Nintendo hardware. Like it or not, Nintendo's brand is built on their hardware, and they sell that hardware by producing high-quality first-party games for it.

Nintendo is currently dominating the handheld gaming market, so long as we are talking about dedicated gaming devices (rather than phones and tablets.) The 3DS isn't selling at the rate the original DS did, but it's not off by a huge amount. It's still a big moneymaker. Nintendo would be stupid to cannibalize those sales by making a cheap option for non-Nintendo hardware.

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Keep in mind that none of us are exactly the target market for this device. It's totally geared towards the younger audience.
Yup. That's why I'll probably get one for my kids, but not for myself.

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Don't get me wrong, when I get around to buying a 3DS (for A Link Between Worlds), it's not going to be this version. But I'm not the target for this version.
I understand that I'm not the target demographic for this, but we're talking about a $40 price difference. That's nothing. If you want to buy a cheap 3DS for the kids, just go to Gamestop and pick up a used 3DS for around $100.

Nintendo tried this once before with the Wii Mini for $99. I wonder if that was successful.
It must have been successful in Canada, because they released it in the UK and Europe, too. I suspect the reason they haven't released it in the US is because it has no Wi-Fi capability, and I assume most people in the US use their Wiis for things like Netflix and YouTube pretty frequently (as my kids do.) A console without Wi-Fi wouldn't make any sense here.
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Old August 29 2013, 05:13 PM   #24
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Target had the 3DS for $130 a few months back, and will again for Christmas. This should be $100.

As some site said, Nintendo makes the first portable gaming device that isn't portable.
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Old August 29 2013, 07:54 PM   #25
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Why isn't this portable?
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Old August 29 2013, 08:53 PM   #26
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Because it can't fit into your pocket. And if it could people would probably be complaining the screen is too small. It's a universal fact people are always going to find something to complain about.
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Because it can't fit into your pocket. And if it could people would probably be complaining the screen is too small. It's a universal fact people are always going to find something to complain about.
Is it any worse than the original Gameboy?

That was considered a portable system as well.
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Old August 29 2013, 09:46 PM   #28
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Re: Nintendo 2DS.

How about the Vita or even the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 or Mega? or other Phablets. Or a Kindle/Kobo/Nook?
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Because it can't fit into your pocket. And if it could people would probably be complaining the screen is too small. It's a universal fact people are always going to find something to complain about.
Is it any worse than the original Gameboy?

That was considered a portable system as well.
The original Gameboy was a bit smaller than a (closed) 3DS.

Although I'm not sure how big the 2DS is, it's definitely not going to fit into most people's pantpockets.
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Old August 30 2013, 01:40 AM   #30
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Re: Nintendo 2DS.

You guys make some good points for the 2DS. I had never considered that the hinges on the 3DS could be easily broken by kids.

As for the 3DS XL, it does fit in my jeans pocket. It's a tight fit, but it's far more comfortable than my Kindle. Yeah, I really need to buy a bag.
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