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Old August 28 2013, 02:32 AM   #91
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Re: 22nd century star clipper...

Getting in some windows which gives a bit better sense of scale. As I said earlier upthread I don't intend to overdo the amount of windows. I think this should be about right. I might put a couple under the saucer.

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Old August 28 2013, 02:54 PM   #92
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Re: 22nd century star clipper...

She does look better with minimal windows, any idea if the decks will be the same height as the 23rd century cruisers or a little thicker here and there for bulkier machinary?
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Old August 28 2013, 03:09 PM   #93
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...any idea if the decks will be the same height as the 23rd century cruisers or a little thicker here and there for bulkier machinary?
I'm envisioning about nine or ten decks in total with perhaps two decks running through the narrowest part of the ship in the middle, and once you cross over into the aft section there are two decks above you. I don't see all the decks being exactly the same height.

The bridge isn't meant to be at the topmost dome---thats actually meant to be an extensive space sensor array with the bridge the bulge underneath it. Engineering is just above the nacelle support and there's meant to be heavy radiation shielding in that support pylon. Yeah, you can go down through the pylon and eventually into the nacelle itself, but only in an emergency with proper equipment or (preferably) when the warp engine is turned off.

This variant of the design is the science reconnaissance version so it would have minimal armament, but it does sport extensive sensor arrays all around the ship. Additional laser emitters and missile launchers could be added to a modified variant of this design. In that event the two variants might look quite similar from a distance. Eventually Starfleet (which doesn't exist yet as my impression is Starfleet comes into being in the early 23rd century) would learn that you could have a ship with both extensive sensor arrays and respectable armament.

Besides a flexible spaceframe that allows variants to be constructed with relative ease the main strengths of the clipper are speed and maneuverability---so when fully armed it makes for a decent combat vessel.
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Old August 28 2013, 09:13 PM   #94
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Figuring out the signage.

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Old August 28 2013, 10:36 PM   #95
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Nice updates. Any particular intent behind the "SR" prefix?
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Old August 29 2013, 12:06 AM   #96
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Nice updates. Any particular intent behind the "SR" prefix?
The "SR" was something I used initially for a non Trek idea I've worked on, but since my Trek stuff will likely never be accepted as official I carried it over. The "SR" simply means Space Registry.
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Old August 29 2013, 02:56 AM   #97
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Ah, ingeniously simple.
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Old August 30 2013, 06:13 AM   #98
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Gettin' there, folks. Gettin' there.

Here we are with some signage. At this point I can't think of adding anything else major. I want to go over it to see if it needs any little extra detail somewhere and then I give more serious thought to painting details. Also, at this point, I haven't "turned on the lights" yet, so to speak. I haven't made any elements such as windows, running lights or impulse engine into emitters yet to have lighting effects.

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Old August 30 2013, 04:11 PM   #99
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Looking great!
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Old August 30 2013, 07:31 PM   #100
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If I may say so I'm rather pleased with how this is coming out. I might quibble over some very small things, but overall I think it works well enough. The essential concept is the same as I had drawn all those years ago, but this version has detail better thought out than before. I admit it's also nice to see it in 3D.

I'm not sure what else I want to add in detail---I'll give it some thought---but I think I'm ready to think about painting more specific colours.

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Old August 30 2013, 07:45 PM   #101
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I apologize if you've already said so and I missed it, but I'm assuming the saucer is not designed to separate from the rest, and perhaps the nacelle itself is intended to be ejectable?
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Old August 30 2013, 09:02 PM   #102
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I apologize if you've already said so and I missed it, but I'm assuming the saucer is not designed to separate from the rest, and perhaps the nacelle itself is intended to be ejectable?
No, the saucer is not separable, but the space warp nacelle definitely can be ejected if it poses a threat to the rest of the ship. Also the nacelle can be swapped out for a replacement either in the case of irreparable damage or for an upgraded unit.

I've been thinking about colour and I'm inclined to go with something closer to my initial idea of a darker hull overall. I'm thinking of variations in tone of the basic colour and not too much in the way a contrasting colours. I'm thinking the overall colour to be a medium to light grey with a bluish tinge to it. I guess I'll have to experiment.
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Old August 30 2013, 09:18 PM   #103
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Ah, thanks for the clarification. In my mind, I like where you're going with the colors as you've described them.
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Old August 30 2013, 11:33 PM   #104
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This just looks great from every angle. The length of the ship allows 3/4 views of the structure to really reach out beyond.
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Old August 31 2013, 01:53 AM   #105
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Thanks. I gotta admit I think it would have been rather cool to have seen the Enterprise come across one of these older ships on TOS.

Because I come at this with a TOS aesthetic in mind I eschew the use of lighting effects in the warp nacelle. Yeah, they did that on the TMP refit, but that came across as more subdued. From TNG onward it just became too overt for my liking.
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