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Old August 26 2013, 09:36 PM   #1
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US. Navy Tug Boat USS. Defiant

Look what I had found. She is a Valiant class and has sister ship name Reliant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Defiant_%28YT-804%29
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Old August 26 2013, 10:48 PM   #2
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Very cool.
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Old August 26 2013, 10:50 PM   #3
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I live less than a mile from the shipyard that built her. Had no idea.
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Old August 26 2013, 10:55 PM   #4
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Neat! Wonder if she's a tough little ship?
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Old August 26 2013, 11:41 PM   #5
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Little?
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Old August 27 2013, 10:53 AM   #6
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Finally! A real-life Reliant other than this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:19....robin.arp.jpg
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Old August 27 2013, 11:23 AM   #7
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reliant cars are cool
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Old August 27 2013, 12:03 PM   #8
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Undoubtedly
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Old August 27 2013, 09:48 PM   #9
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Anyone know if the crew appreciate their namesake?

Are the crew of the real USS Valiant also a bunch of douchebags?
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Old August 27 2013, 10:19 PM   #10
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That's too much of a coincidence. I think someone in the naming department is a closet Trek fan.
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Old August 28 2013, 08:07 AM   #11
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Thats what Id like to believe, too
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Old August 28 2013, 11:15 AM   #12
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That's too much of a coincidence. I think someone in the naming department is a closet Trek fan.
Absolutely! The HMS Defiant in the 1962 film Damn the Defiant! was an invention of the film producers, there are no records (I've seen some of them) that there was ever a ship in her majesty's navy with that name.

Most likely the TOS Defiant was inspired by the aforementioned film, maybe just because of the mutiny allusions associated with the name.

For in-universe applications this US Navy tug boat is a first step, but I hope the TOS Starship Defiant will have other predecessors with that name and not just a tug boat.

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Old August 28 2013, 03:32 PM   #13
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Not quite as glamorous and prestigious as on Star Trek.
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Old August 28 2013, 04:33 PM   #14
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It's interesting because the primary definition of "reliant" means dependent on something or someone else, not normally high on a list of military virtues. I assume people take it as short for "self-reliant," but it seems that's a fairly recent thing. I blame Lee Iacocca, myself.
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Old August 28 2013, 04:43 PM   #15
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J.T.B. wrote: View Post
It's interesting because the primary definition of "reliant" means dependent on something or someone else, not normally high on a list of military virtues. I assume people take it as short for "self-reliant," but it seems that's a fairly recent thing. I blame Lee Iacocca, myself.
Perhaps it's not meant to describe the vessel, but the faith the users have in the vessel (as in they rely upon it).
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