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Old August 24 2013, 06:30 PM   #46
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^ I read the names and thought of this:

In that context, Washington would kick Ford's ass.
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Old August 25 2013, 03:37 AM   #47
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I have always thought that Kim Newman's short story, Red Reign could be made into a movie. He later expanded the short story into the novel Anno Dracula.

The synopsis is

in this alternate fictional world, Count Dracula has killed Van Helsing and an injury sustained to Doctor John Seward's hand during a fight with Renfield resulted in the group lacking the men to drive Dracula away from Mina Hacker resulting in Dracula killing Quincey Morris and Jonathan Harker before escaping with Mina.

With no one to oppose him, Dracula turns Mina into a vampire, adding her to his collection of brides, and proceeds to spread his vampire curse creating thousands of undead throughout England. He soon seduces and marries Queen Victoria ushering in a period of increasing British vampire domination. Dracula is well-advanced in imposing a police state on Great Britain, where dissenters may be jailed or impaled without trial.

Jack the Ripper stalks Whitechapel murdering vampire prostitutes. Charles Beauregard, a (non-vampire) agent of the Diogenes Club, is sent to track the murderer down, and finds himself enmeshed in a plot to free England from Dracula's rule.
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Old August 25 2013, 10:20 PM   #48
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I like that idea. Good novels or short stories would make interesting films. Now we see more and more of teen supernatural/adventure book series like The Hunger Games, et al, but it would be great to see more adult- oriented film adaptations of novels, both classic and modern.
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Old August 26 2013, 02:25 PM   #49
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EmoBorg: Newman's short story was the precursor for the novels Anno Dracula and The Bloody Red Baron (iirc). You should read them, there are some similarities.
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Old August 27 2013, 06:14 PM   #50
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I've had a conception originating from 1996....a film in my own head, fully scripted and plotted though well over 120 pages. It's fully cast with almost 50 actors selected. Since it was 17 years back, some of the cast have passed away. Due to time and computer issues involved, a bare minimum of three posts and perhaps five in-depth paragraphs be required to sufficiently highlight it.

The main question is, would it be fair to inflict the concept on the simultaneously obtuse, addle-minded, careless and the daffy minority of one? Not that I have any issues with his pitches. The vast majority of you MAY buy into the terrorist parakeet concept, and nobody's required to applaud, bow or like the premise. But if the mind is closed before the attempt's made, what's the point of attempting it?

Which Simpson's episode is it most like?
Hard to say. I've seen only 20 percent of the shows. But two of the 603 villains of the ''movie'' were ''casted'' to be Nancy Cartwright and Dan Castalaneta...voices only. They'd play Twitter and Itchynipples respectively. Twitter almost makes it to the end of the ''movie.'' Itchynipples buys it halfway through after being slugged with a toilet seat and flushed down the attached toilet.

582 of the 603 bad guys are the parakeets, but only one of them, the leader, is a true character. Three of the villains are human, and one is under cover in a sense. The final 18 are larger birds of various types. One is much more prominent than the others. Only 20 of the total birds have legitimate if MOSTLY brief speaking parts and are all stunt-casted by 1996-era actors. All these characters including Twitter are male. More to come on this.

Thematically, HOT FUZZ and the first KICK-ASS are quite similar in my approach. But when this was assembled in my head my key influences were DIE HARD, TRUE GRIT (with a blonder, older version of its heroine), THE USUAL SUSPECTS (for a key mysterious subplot) and THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING for its comedic emphasis gradually shifting to 90 percent seriousness.

What you may want to do at this point is tell me what specific aspects, parts and characters of DIE HARD you enjoyed the most, then I can tell you how those moments or characters were adapted or corrupted. The script is written and it's way too long for two hours, but I can provide comparative answers. Don't worry if your thoughts are ultra-specific. This is a kitchen sink spoof conceived half-a-year before SCREAM.

Lastly, thanks to Admiral 2.
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Old August 27 2013, 06:52 PM   #51
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Triskelion wrote: View Post
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I've had a conception originating from 1996....a film in my own head, fully scripted and plotted though well over 120 pages. It's fully cast with almost 50 actors selected. Since it was 17 years back, some of the cast have passed away. Due to time and computer issues involved, a bare minimum of three posts and perhaps five in-depth paragraphs be required to sufficiently highlight it.

The main question is, would it be fair to inflict the concept on the simultaneously obtuse, addle-minded, careless and the daffy minority of one? Not that I have any issues with his pitches. The vast majority of you MAY buy into the terrorist parakeet concept, and nobody's required to applaud, bow or like the premise. But if the mind is closed before the attempt's made, what's the point of attempting it?

Which Simpson's episode is it most like?
Hard to say. I've seen only 20 percent of the shows. But two of the 603 villains of the ''movie'' were ''casted'' to be Nancy Cartwright and Dan Castalaneta...voices only. They'd play Twitter and Itchynipples respectively. Twitter almost makes it to the end of the ''movie.'' Itchynipples buys it halfway through after being slugged with a toilet seat and flushed down the attached toilet.

582 of the 603 bad guys are the parakeets, but only one of them, the leader, is a true character. Three of the villains are human, and one is under cover in a sense. The final 18 are larger birds of various types. One is much more prominent than the others. Only 20 of the total birds have legitimate if MOSTLY brief speaking parts and are all stunt-casted by 1996-era actors. All characters including Twitter are male. More to come on this.

Thematically, HOT FUZZ and the first KICK-ASS are quite similar in my approach. But when this was assembled in my head my key influences were DIE HARD, TRUE GRIT (with a blonder, older version of its heroine), THE USUAL SUSPECTS (for a key mysterious subplot) and THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING for its comedic emphasis gradually shifting to 90 percent seriousness.

What you may want to do at this point is tell me what specific aspects, parts and characters of DIE HARD you enjoyed the most, then I can tell you how those moments or characters were adapted or corrupted. The script is written and it's way too long for two hours, but I can provide comparative answers. Don't worry if your thoughts are ultra-specific. This is a kitchen sink spoof conceived half-a-year before SCREAM.

Lastly, thanks to Admiral 2.
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Old August 27 2013, 08:09 PM   #52
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Two things i'd immediately green light if i had the money and the clout in Hollywood


- Battletech

30 foot tall walking Battlemechs have become the Kings of the battlefield in a distant future where humanity has spread to the stars but interstellar politics have not become enlightened instead. Wars are legitimate tools of politics and used as such in both small skirmishes and large scale engagements.
If successful can be easily expanded into a TV show with the added bonus of introducing the Clans

- Shadowrun

It's the year 2050, technology has become so advanced that technological and biological body modifications have become normal and Man/Machine interfaces are the standard, huge Megacorporations that rival (or in many cases surpass) states in power who battle it out on the stock market as well as in the shadows where a group of people called Shadowrunners do every job from stealing data to killing people in order to further the plans of their temporary employer
The twist? With the end of the Mayan calendar Magic has "returned" to the world instantly causing some people to transform into fantasy races such as Elves, Dwarves or Orcs and some few ones can actually use magic in both offense and defense making them highly sought after specialists
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Old August 27 2013, 08:49 PM   #53
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I've had a conception originating from 1996....a film in my own head, fully scripted and plotted though well over 120 pages. It's fully cast with almost 50 actors selected. Since it was 17 years back, some of the cast have passed away. Due to time and computer issues involved, a bare minimum of three posts and perhaps five in-depth paragraphs be required to sufficiently highlight it.

The main question is, would it be fair to inflict the concept on the simultaneously obtuse, addle-minded, careless and the daffy minority of one? Not that I have any issues with his pitches. The vast majority of you MAY buy into the terrorist parakeet concept, and nobody's required to applaud, bow or like the premise. But if the mind is closed before the attempt's made, what's the point of attempting it?

Which Simpson's episode is it most like?
Hard to say. I've seen only 20 percent of the shows. But two of the 603 villains of the ''movie'' were ''casted'' to be Nancy Cartwright and Dan Castalaneta...voices only. They'd play Twitter and Itchynipples respectively. Twitter almost makes it to the end of the ''movie.'' Itchynipples buys it halfway through after being slugged with a toilet seat and flushed down the attached toilet.

582 of the 603 bad guys are the parakeets, but only one of them, the leader, is a true character. Three of the villains are human, and one is under cover in a sense. The final 18 are larger birds of various types. One is much more prominent than the others. Only 20 of the total birds have legitimate if MOSTLY brief speaking parts and are all stunt-casted by 1996-era actors. All these characters including Twitter are male. More to come on this.

Thematically, HOT FUZZ and the first KICK-ASS are quite similar in my approach. But when this was assembled in my head my key influences were DIE HARD, TRUE GRIT (with a blonder, older version of its heroine), THE USUAL SUSPECTS (for a key mysterious subplot) and THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING for its comedic emphasis gradually shifting to 90 percent seriousness.

Please, please tell me you're using trained birds and not CGI!




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What you may want to do at this point is tell me what specific aspects, parts and characters of DIE HARD you enjoyed the most, then I can tell you how those moments or characters were adapted or corrupted. The script is written and it's way too long for two hours, but I can provide comparative answers. Don't worry if your thoughts are ultra-specific. This is a kitchen sink spoof conceived half-a-year before SCREAM.
I like the part in Die Hard when he says "DIE HARD!!! YEAAHHHHH!!!"
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Old August 27 2013, 10:45 PM   #54
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Yeesh. I shudder to think about using real birds, since CGI wasn't always used as often in '96. At the time I just thought my parakeet Blooper would be intelligent enough to handle the vast majority of stunt doubling. He's no longer with us either, but unlike all but two of the 603 villains, he died of natural causes. You'd definitely have to go all-CGI now for this.

''DIE HARD, YEAHHHHHH!!!!!'' sounds like the moment Bruce Willis jumped OUT of the sckyscraper, but I only remember the ''YEAHHHHHH!!!!'' Since my version is set at a three-story shopping mall, that particular moment was pretty impossible me to top, or match....
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Old August 28 2013, 05:35 AM   #55
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A ”Family Guy” movie: Peter Griffin vs. Chicken

I always love the fight scenes between Peter and his nemesis – the big rooster. I could watch a whole 2–hour sequence of the two just fighting each other. It would be epic!
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Old August 28 2013, 04:04 PM   #56
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This may be more of a comic book than a movie, but I'll pitch it anyway.

I was reading a book last night and in one section of the book, the author was describing a Revolutionary War hero. This is a no-fiction book. The man's name was General Anthony Wayne. It suddenly struck that maybe I could make a fictional connection to Bruce Wayne. I did some further research and came up with a basic idea.

General Anthony Wayne (the real guy).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Wayne

Fictional BIO: Born Jan. 1, 1745, Presumed Dead, December 15, 1796. Wayne was a Revolutionary War hero and an Indian fighter in the Northwest Territory. As a result of the Treaty of Greenville of 1795, Wayne helped establish Fort Gotham along the Gotham River.

The real Treaty of Greenville established Fort Dearborn, which was outside of Chicago and basically evolved into Chicago, so it ties in well with the Gotham/Chicago connection.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Greenville

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Dearborn

Here is my fictional history for Gotham. Fort Gotham was established in 1795 to fight off Indians and establish trade routes to the East. The word Gotham comes from the Miami Indians. The term refers to an offshoot of their tribe, the Goshe-Tahm, a word meaning men who live like bats. They live all band together in the Winter and live in caves and in the Summer, they spread out in the forest along
the Gotham River. This pattern is similar to the Indiana Bat that lives in that area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_bat

On his way back to his home in Pennsylvania, General Wayne is attacked by group of bandits and his trusty companion and Indian guide Rouge-Gorge is killed. Rather than returning home, the General became distraught over the incident and decided to forge a new identity. Wayne faked his own death and began seeking vengeance against criminals and avenged the death of his guide. He remained in the now booming Fort Gotham area. As a hooded figure dressed in black and riding a black stallion, Wayne became a legend in his own time; the Gotham Horseman.
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Old August 28 2013, 04:50 PM   #57
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Ugh, I hate stories where it turns out that one of Bruce's ancestors was also a masked vigilante.
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Old August 28 2013, 05:03 PM   #58
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This may be more of a comic book than a movie, but I'll pitch it anyway.

I was reading a book last night and in one section of the book, the author was describing a Revolutionary War hero. This is a no-fiction book. The man's name was General Anthony Wayne. It suddenly struck that maybe I could make a fictional connection to Bruce Wayne. I did some further research and came up with a basic idea.

General Anthony Wayne (the real guy).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Wayne

Fictional BIO: Born Jan. 1, 1745, Presumed Dead, December 15, 1796. Wayne was a Revolutionary War hero and an Indian fighter in the Northwest Territory. As a result of the Treaty of Greenville of 1795, Wayne helped establish Fort Gotham along the Gotham River.

The real Treaty of Greenville established Fort Dearborn, which was outside of Chicago and basically evolved into Chicago, so it ties in well with the Gotham/Chicago connection.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Greenville

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Dearborn

Here is my fictional history for Gotham. Fort Gotham was established in 1795 to fight off Indians and establish trade routes to the East. The word Gotham comes from the Miami Indians. The term refers to an offshoot of their tribe, the Goshe-Tahm, a word meaning men who live like bats. They live all band together in the Winter and live in caves and in the Summer, they spread out in the forest along
the Gotham River. This pattern is similar to the Indiana Bat that lives in that area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_bat

On his way back to his home in Pennsylvania, General Wayne is attacked by group of bandits and his trusty companion and Indian guide Rouge-Gorge is killed. Rather than returning home, the General became distraught over the incident and decided to forge a new identity. Wayne faked his own death and began seeking vengeance against criminals and avenged the death of his guide. He remained in the now booming Fort Gotham area. As a hooded figure dressed in black and riding a black stallion, Wayne became a legend in his own time; the Gotham Horseman.
"Gotham" is European in origin.

And why not just pitch a movie about the actual General Wayne?
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Old August 28 2013, 06:12 PM   #59
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For obvious reasons, my story's titled FLY HARD. Two years later or so an episode of ''Lois and Clark'' used that name. No birds used in the episode as far as I know....

Of the 603 terrorists in the tale, only 24 have character names. One of them is a non-entity which required no voice-casting. Here are the rest of the bad guys, in the order of their departure from the story (character names to come later):

Ted Raimi
Adam Wylie
Dennis Dun, followed by George Takei
Dan Castelaneta
John Rhys-Davies and Richard Belzer together
William Christopher, then Bill Paxton moments later
Eric Idle

Then in the grand finale extended battle:

Lance Henriksen
Rodney Dangerfield
Gary Busey
Robert Townsend
Andrew Robinson
DeForrest Kelley, Ed Begley Jr, Jack Palance, Dennis Miller, Nancy Cartwright and Ice-T simultaneously.....
............Bruce Willis seconds later....

.......and last but not least, except in net weight and size, Roddy McDowall.

The human villains here are Willis, Henriksen and Raimi. When it's over, only Townsend and Robinson survive but are thoroughly unconscious.
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This may be more of a comic book than a movie, but I'll pitch it anyway.

I was reading a book last night and in one section of the book, the author was describing a Revolutionary War hero. This is a no-fiction book. The man's name was General Anthony Wayne. It suddenly struck that maybe I could make a fictional connection to Bruce Wayne. I did some further research and came up with a basic idea.

General Anthony Wayne (the real guy).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Wayne

Fictional BIO: Born Jan. 1, 1745, Presumed Dead, December 15, 1796. Wayne was a Revolutionary War hero and an Indian fighter in the Northwest Territory. As a result of the Treaty of Greenville of 1795, Wayne helped establish Fort Gotham along the Gotham River.

The real Treaty of Greenville established Fort Dearborn, which was outside of Chicago and basically evolved into Chicago, so it ties in well with the Gotham/Chicago connection.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Greenville

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Dearborn

Here is my fictional history for Gotham. Fort Gotham was established in 1795 to fight off Indians and establish trade routes to the East. The word Gotham comes from the Miami Indians. The term refers to an offshoot of their tribe, the Goshe-Tahm, a word meaning men who live like bats. They live all band together in the Winter and live in caves and in the Summer, they spread out in the forest along
the Gotham River. This pattern is similar to the Indiana Bat that lives in that area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_bat

On his way back to his home in Pennsylvania, General Wayne is attacked by group of bandits and his trusty companion and Indian guide Rouge-Gorge is killed. Rather than returning home, the General became distraught over the incident and decided to forge a new identity. Wayne faked his own death and began seeking vengeance against criminals and avenged the death of his guide. He remained in the now booming Fort Gotham area. As a hooded figure dressed in black and riding a black stallion, Wayne became a legend in his own time; the Gotham Horseman.
IIRC, Mad Anthony Wayne is already an ancestor of Bruce Wayne.
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