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View Poll Results: Rate Revelation and Dust.
Outstanding 29 25.66%
Above Average 45 39.82%
Average 26 23.01%
Below Average 7 6.19%
Poor 6 5.31%
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Old August 26 2013, 11:10 AM   #31
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Re: TF: Revelation and Dust by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!)

Something I just said in my Livejournal that I suspect RTOlson will agree with...

One thing reaffirmed: Deep Space Nine is the place where bad things go to make sure that they happen to good people.
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Old August 26 2013, 06:36 PM   #32
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I think that it's obvious after reading this novel it was defo a setup to more. However, after reading what the next two books are about, I can't help but wonder that atleast some of the issues won't be adressed in those two, and with the fourth novel being a Titan novel, I doubt that one will deal with some of the setups from R&D. So perhaps Peaceable Kingdoms then, otherwise it will be a looooooong wait.

Other then that, I suppose all I can really say is, for me personally, DRGIII did it again!!
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Old August 28 2013, 05:23 AM   #33
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I am getting my copy from amazon.com tomorrow. I will actually be able to read this typhon pact book right when it comes out since I am all caught up on the series. First time in several books that I have been able to do that. Also means that I can likely participate in this thread in a timely manner given that fact.
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Old August 28 2013, 11:49 AM   #34
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I could only go with average I'm afraid and it might have been less until the twists (well the Prophet related twists anyway - the other one wasn't a shock) at the end.

Couldn't get anywhere with the orb experience Kira story - maybe depending on the ending it might get some value in retrospect but it was a fairly standard, generic even, story of resistance to opression and having read a few better written books lately which touched upon local resistance movements during the second world war this was just too bland for me to care.

The DS9 story just felt a bit too familiar - big event happening and a lot of character work leading up to the latest disaster. The last books had the same structure and all this did was make the DS9 crew look fairly incompetent.

It was great to see more catch up with the DS9 characters particularly Ro but the new command staff are still essentially blank slates and others are somewhat out of focus - what's going on with Nog - does he have a girlfriend or life of any kind, does he resent being under O'Brien again given his rank, anything would be nice. Also Sarina Douglas is still a complete personality black hole - she's no longer the super woman plot device she was in Zero Sum Game but it's been replaced with nothing.

As a lot of this seemed to be set up for the rest of the series so maybe I'll think better of this when we see how everything plays out but at the moment this was a real disappointment.
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Old August 28 2013, 12:34 PM   #35
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I could only go with average I'm afraid and it might have been less until the twists (well the Prophet related twists anyway - the other one wasn't a shock) at the end.

Couldn't get anywhere with the orb experience Kira story - maybe depending on the ending it might get some value in retrospect but it was a fairly standard, generic even, story of resistance to opression and having read a few better written books lately which touched upon local resistance movements during the second world war this was just too bland for me to care.

The DS9 story just felt a bit too familiar - big event happening and a lot of character work leading up to the latest disaster. The last books had the same structure and all this did was make the DS9 crew look fairly incompetent.

It was great to see more catch up with the DS9 characters particularly Ro but the new command staff are still essentially blank slates and others are somewhat out of focus - what's going on with Nog - does he have a girlfriend or life of any kind, does he resent being under O'Brien again given his rank, anything would be nice. Also Sarina Douglas is still a complete personality black hole - she's no longer the super woman plot device she was in Zero Sum Game but it's been replaced with nothing.

As a lot of this seemed to be set up for the rest of the series so maybe I'll think better of this when we see how everything plays out but at the moment this was a real disappointment.
This a problem i have with drg iii. He spends an entire chapter of Kira just watching Emissary. and its the boring part of Emissary, its every single Sisko in the wormhole scene.

He did the same thing with his Crucible Trilogy, especially the Spock one, where he just copied and pasted the City on the Edge of forever transcript to the page.

No wonder his books are so freakin' long.

Enjoying it so far though.
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Old August 28 2013, 04:46 PM   #36
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TrekCore has a new interview with David R. George III up now: http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/08/exc...iii-interview/
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Old August 28 2013, 05:55 PM   #37
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"It has been a fascinating journey, although readers have yet to witness all the steps she’s taken, since a period of time—roughly 2377 through 2380—has thus far gone undocumented in the DS9 novels. If the books continue to sell well, though, there is every chance that at least some of those developments will be explored in more detail somewhere down the road."

My emotions! I really hope this series sells well then.
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Old August 28 2013, 06:48 PM   #38
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I'm enjoying it so far; but (as someone posted above), Kira watching Sisko's experiences from "Emissary" seemed pointless, probably only there to mark STS9's 20th Anniversary.

That said, those original Sisko/Prophets scenes in "Emissary" are pretty inspired, given how hard it must have been for Michael Piller to write scenes where the aliens don't understand the concept of time.
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Old August 28 2013, 09:44 PM   #39
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Mage wrote: View Post
Other then that, I suppose all I can really say is, for me personally, DRGIII did it again!!
I agree 100%
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Old August 29 2013, 02:07 AM   #40
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I started on Tuesday morning after it was delivered to my kindle & got through two chapters, last night I stayed up till 4am to finish it off. Really enjoyed it, going to hit it again tonight.

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Old August 29 2013, 10:40 AM   #41
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About a third of the way through, hard going so far - the Kira stuff is dull and there is a hell of lot of backstory being relayed.
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Old August 29 2013, 12:50 PM   #42
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I have a question for those who have read it. I have not picked it up yet, but checked it out on Amazon in it's Look Inside feature. And something I noticed bothered me.



Was that bad editing or was there a point to it?
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Old August 29 2013, 02:10 PM   #43
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Not trying to steer sales or anything, but if you buy these online and haven't already pre-ordered them, the The Fall series on Amazon are showing up as $4.79 a book right now. First one shipped to me the other day, and noticed it was a couple bucks cheaper than expected, so went back and looked. If you haven't already ordered ahead, may wish to jump on this, nice deal!
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Old August 29 2013, 04:37 PM   #44
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Don't know how to use the spoiler tags, so read at your own risk.






Are we seeing Star Trek taking the 50th anniversary of the JFK assasination and retelling it in Trek form? I am so glad Bacco is dead. No offense to Keith DeCandido (SP?) but she was a saracastic quip loving idiot of a character. It' been a long 8 years of dealing wtih the Cestus Wonder.

Looking forward to a new shrewd leader like Min Zife.
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Old August 29 2013, 04:43 PM   #45
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I should not have read that spolier before I started the novel Saturday.
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