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Old August 27 2013, 07:31 PM   #256
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Re: The Single Worst Line of Dialogue in the entire Star Trek Franchis

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Well, dude, you read my mind. Not only is it out of character, but it's out of place. A better line would have been for him to be silently shaking with anger, if he had to be that emotional at all. It was a great tear-jerking scene until this happened.
This too. And I liked that movie. It just seemed... unneccessary.
I laughed way too hard in the theater when Spock yelled that. I just couldn't help it.
I didn't laugh when he said "THHAAAAAAAAAT"... but saw it coming a mile away... cringed a bit inside as to whether he'd really say it, then tossed off my 3-D glasses and sighed. --->

Pretty much out of the movie from that point on.

Saw it a second time, no 3-D, accepted what was to come, but still not sold on it. Gotta see how the blu-ray plays.
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Old September 8 2013, 04:30 PM   #257
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Re: The Single Worst Line of Dialogue in the entire Star Trek Franchis

Cutler: "They don't have movies where you come from, do they?"

Phlox: "We had something similar a few hundred years ago, but they lost their appeal when people discovered their real lives were more interesting."

Ugh.......
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Old September 8 2013, 05:31 PM   #258
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^Indeed. Real life is not more interesting.

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Old September 8 2013, 06:52 PM   #259
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^Indeed. Real life is not more interesting.

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Denobulans did typically have three spouses. That would effectively gut several film genres and create a serious drain on one's time.
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Old September 8 2013, 06:53 PM   #260
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Cutler: "They don't have movies where you come from, do they?"

Phlox: "We had something similar a few hundred years ago, but they lost their appeal when people discovered their real lives were more interesting."

Ugh.......
Oh brother..... Which explains why the holodeck was a popular pastime. Or watching plays. He could have just said something like, 'once we did but not any more'.

I understand where he was getting at, (TV does has it negatives) but the part about abandoning the whole thing because of real lives being more interesting...seems preachy again.
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Old September 8 2013, 07:22 PM   #261
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^Especially since the Voyager crew had no problem visiting Tom Paris' recreation of a theater.

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Old September 9 2013, 11:22 AM   #262
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^Especially since the Voyager crew had no problem visiting Tom Paris' recreation of a theater.

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Hypocrites? Hah, Voyager couldn't wait to re-instate television. Paris actually had a television in his quarters. And the Captain Proton stuff. And this what Kes actually said about TV soap operas;

KES: That's because you've been spoiled by the holodeck. There's something to be said for non-interactive stories like this, being swept away in the narrative.
What happened to all that stuff Data and Phlox said about TV?

Janeway: There's coffee in that nebulae.
Nothing particularly wrong with this one, but have to throw it out anyway.
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Old September 9 2013, 11:35 AM   #263
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Plus, they still have news channels in the future ("Endgame"/Generations/Into Darkness)
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Old September 9 2013, 05:17 PM   #264
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It creates a fascinating paradox - people who are above all that and work only to better themselves, yet in actuality are still fascinated by the stuff they're better than. Root beer indeed.

Come to think of it, I think that's why all those preachy lines always drive me nuts.

I'm not saying that a positive example of a future is a bad thing, or a bad thing to aspire to, but when it's played as a vaguely hypocritical way of life, it's annoying and disheartening.
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Old September 9 2013, 06:13 PM   #265
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Hah, Voyager couldn't wait to re-instate television. Paris actually had a television in his quarters.
Captain Pike was so ahead of the curve when it came to having a television in his quarters.

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Old September 9 2013, 06:16 PM   #266
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Or at least intellectually honest?
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Old September 9 2013, 08:50 PM   #267
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Captain Pike was so ahead of the curve when it came to having a television in his quarters.
Wonder what he was watching? lol

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It creates a fascinating paradox - people who are above all that and work only to better themselves, yet in actuality are still fascinated by the stuff they're better than. Root beer indeed.

Come to think of it, I think that's why all those preachy lines always drive me nuts.

I'm not saying that a positive example of a future is a bad thing, or a bad thing to aspire to, but when it's played as a vaguely hypocritical way of life, it's annoying and disheartening.
That's what I see. A simple answer would have been good enough, but Trek characters took it a step further with extra commentary about how backwards a past activity was.

What would make people suddenly want to go back reading books all day, watching plays, practicing on an instrument for hours, and nothing else?

It took over 90,000 years for humans to finally create television. Did Trek think humans were going to give it up suddenly and go back to telling stories, gardening, having picnics everday?

If you were to ask Picard if he watched TV he'd probably say something similar to Phlox, about finding real life more interesting than watching someone else's.

But if you were to ask him, 'but when you pretend to be Dixon Hill when you use the holodeck, how is that any different?"

Would love to see the expression....
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Old September 9 2013, 09:28 PM   #268
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Yeah. I mean, sure with all the post-apocalyptic horror nobody wanted to watch television for a while there, but once that was all sorted, surely all kinds of new fancy technologies would make staged entertainment of any kind more enjoyable? If VGR's any indication, someone's in the habit of holo-converting some of our 20th century classics. I believe Harry named "To Catch a Thief" as one such film.

The one reason that I can see TV as we know it disappearing is because of the exodus of humanity to the stars - but within our lifetimes we're already seeing a marked shift towards the on-demand market, which could easily still work in the future.

"It's not interesting to us anymore" is stupid. It probably wouldn't be to one of us Trekkies who was transported to the future, sure. We'd be busy trying to get into Starfleet Academy.
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Old September 9 2013, 10:38 PM   #269
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Hah, Voyager couldn't wait to re-instate television. Paris actually had a television in his quarters.
Captain Pike was so ahead of the curve when it came to having a television in his quarters.
Yep, he obviously knew that what goes around, comes around.
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Old September 10 2013, 12:33 AM   #270
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How is it hypocritical of Janeway's crew that they enjoyed movies and television because a Denobulan 200 years earlier had a different opinion about such media?
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