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Old January 27 2013, 03:57 AM   #61
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Re: Absolute worst character in DS9 History: Ezri Dax

Rom had a lot of good moments and a lot of very annoying moments.

Rom's best moments were when he was rebelling against Quark and helping Starfleet. His worst moments were when he was screaming.
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Old February 3 2013, 05:12 PM   #62
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Re: Absolute worst character in DS9 History: Ezri Dax

Ezri is my favourite character, so I definitely don't agree on 'worst.' There are a range of options for that.

I would have really liked them to change Daxes halfway through the show. More Ezri for me. Less rush to introduce her in S7 for others. Win-win.

Jadzia suffered from inconsistent writing; rather than contain the serenity and wisdom of age at the same time as youthful enthusiasm, she switched between. And then she turned into a spotted Klingon.

Ezri was far better written for exploring what it means to be a joined Trill, a species far more interesting - and far less already done - than Klingons.
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Old February 3 2013, 08:14 PM   #63
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His worst moments were when he was screaming.
Mooooogiiiiieeeee!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnxZkShvu80
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Old August 27 2013, 01:17 PM   #64
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I don't necessarily think she was a bad character, but they definitely focused on her way too much for the final season of the show. After the first couple episodes of the season, the next dozen or more episodes didn't move the Dominion/war plot-line forward at all so it just kind of felt like we were left hanging.

The final season also didn't have as much Garek, and he is probably my favorite character on DS9 (not necessarily the nicest character but definitely the most intriguing)
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Old August 29 2013, 04:23 AM   #65
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Re: Absolute worst character in DS9 History: Ezri Dax

Ezri has grown on me over the years but I admit to not liking her at all at first. Of all the DS9 characters, replacing Jadzia was the "easiest" for the writers, you just continue on with a new body.

I think its ironic that Farrell left because she didnt feel her character had much to do but then Ezri gets a ton of screen time in season 7.
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Old August 29 2013, 10:12 AM   #66
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His worst moments were when he was screaming.
Mooooogiiiiieeeee!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnxZkShvu80
Well, Rom was supposed to be annoying.



But I absolutely love this scene. So random. I was in tears the first time I saw it. Arr, DS9, what a great show.
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Old August 29 2013, 12:45 PM   #67
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I think its ironic that Farrell left because she didnt feel her character had much to do but then Ezri gets a ton of screen time in season 7.
I think the writers overdid the getting to know Ezri thing in her one season.
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Old August 29 2013, 03:35 PM   #68
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I think its ironic that Farrell left because she didnt feel her character had much to do but then Ezri gets a ton of screen time in season 7.
I think the writers overdid the getting to know Ezri thing in her one season.
Yeah, she really derailed the tense storyline of season 7... what exactly did she bring to the table anyways beyond being a consolation love interest for Bashir?
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Old August 30 2013, 01:51 AM   #69
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I didn't love the character, but warmed up to her towards the end. It wasn't ideal how her character was created. In terms of Sisko warming up to her, I think it was perfectly realistic that he did so so fast. When Jadzia first came aboard the station, she had recently been joined, and he warmed up to her fairly fast. She even warned him that not all relationships from a former host survive a transfer. This was Sisko's 3rd Dax, and 2nd time he had to adjust to a permanent change.

As for Neelix, I still dislike Neelix. Not that fond of Joe (The Doctor) either. Don't think she's that bad compared to Neelix.
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Old August 30 2013, 01:54 AM   #70
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The final season also didn't have as much Garek, and he is probably my favorite character on DS9 (not necessarily the nicest character but definitely the most intriguing)
The last season had a lot of Garek, especially the final 7 episodes.
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Old August 30 2013, 02:19 AM   #71
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I liked Ezri. She did a good job playing a fish out of water and grew into her character well. Enjoy her continuation in the novelverse as well.
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Old August 30 2013, 03:07 AM   #72
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Ezri was just too darn cute. One time I had just bought one of those Star Trek Magazines and Ezri was on the cover. A friend saw it, and his first words were "She's cute!"

Ezri was so cute, you just wanted to pick her up and take her home and-- well, she was cute.
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Old August 30 2013, 03:12 AM   #73
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The thing about Jadzia is, she was a great idea for a character, but how do you develop somebody who has lived eight lifetimes already?

I liked what they did with her in Dax, but there's only so many times you can draw from the metaphysical 'who is she really' well. They should have committed to making her a comedy-oriented character.
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Old August 30 2013, 03:22 AM   #74
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The thing about Jadzia is, she was a great idea for a character, but how do you develop somebody who has lived eight lifetimes already?

I liked what they did with her in Dax, but there's only so many times you can draw from the metaphysical 'who is she really' well. They should have committed to making her a comedy-oriented character.
The writers never knew what to do with the Jadzia character. They should have just written her as an old mentor type of character from the start.

We also got Kes from a race that only lived a short 7 years, but the writers on THAT show didn't know what to do with that character either.
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Old August 30 2013, 04:02 AM   #75
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The thing about Jadzia is, she was a great idea for a character, but how do you develop somebody who has lived eight lifetimes already?

I liked what they did with her in Dax, but there's only so many times you can draw from the metaphysical 'who is she really' well. They should have committed to making her a comedy-oriented character.
The writers never knew what to do with the Jadzia character. They should have just written her as an old mentor type of character from the start.

We also got Kes from a race that only lived a short 7 years, but the writers on THAT show didn't know what to do with that character either.
In the case of both Jadzia Dax and Kes, it seems the producers wanted characters that were wise but young, possessing levels of experience far beyond their years. I think Kes was better: the shortened lifespan suggested reaching a level of maturity much sooner without giving her lots of knowledge. She had more social intelligence than other members of the crew, particularly Paris and Kim. Jadzia's level of confidence was not only difficult to believe, it was also difficult to portray. Terry Farrell admits that she needed Avery Brooks help because she could not portray the level of gravitas the part required.

For what it's worth, I think the writers did a better job with Ezri Dax than Jadzia. The kinds of episodes that Ezri got would have been great in the first season. However, the pacing and structure of the last season didn't allow for such introductory explorations of character. Nonetheless, the show needed another female character, and unless they intended to elevate a recurring character to the regular cast/crew (Cassidy Yates? Leeta?), they would need to write a new character, whose presence would be awkward in comparison with the rest.
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