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Old August 21 2013, 09:38 PM   #151
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Re: And now The Newsroom....

Sports Night is political at times too, but the episodes are so short you can get over it.

There is an episode dealing with racism, and another dealign with drug use that come to mind, but the speech is handled well, and is over in a minute and somehow still fits.

There is an episode where a character was screwing up a lot because she was getting death threats for outing a pervert football player. She finally goes "Why aren't you yelling at me!!!!?!?! I'm screwing up! I'm not doing my job well! Don't you care!?!" And unlike The Newsroom they actually do care!

I think it's on Netflix, i suggest watching the first two episodes (I like the second one better than the first), all you would waste is 40 minutes, which is still 10-15 minutes less than the time you waste watching The Newsroom.

I think Aaron Sorkin writes better TV shows stoned, and now that he's cleaned up he should stick to movies only. His movies are still enjoyable.
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Old August 22 2013, 02:06 AM   #152
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Sports Night was a great show.
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Old August 26 2013, 04:34 AM   #153
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Loved tonight's episode. Great appearance by Jane Fonda.
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Old August 26 2013, 02:03 PM   #154
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Agreed. Not a big Fonda fan myself, but I thought the episode overall was several orders of magnitude better than last week's frenetic attempt. They were firmly focused on Genoa, with a lurking bit about Benghazi - very well done and the dialog was up to par. Still loving Sloan above all others.

And poor Charlie... He's probably the most noble and kind-hearted of all of them and he always seems to take it up the ass for everyone, deserved or not. Reminds me why I'm over 40, still not an executive manager and pretty happy with that.
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Old August 26 2013, 02:22 PM   #155
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Wow, Charlie's old friend fucked him right over!

Jane Fonda was pretty good (and looked pretty hot too! ). It's good to see a proprietor standing by an employee, especially when they were in the right.

The Washington producer guy is a complete douche, threatening them all with his narcissistic hunger for status and ambition. Fuck that guy.

More later.
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Old August 26 2013, 03:08 PM   #156
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He doesn't have a choice.

He can either sue them for enough money to live off for the next thirty years, or find a nice card board box to live in.

But him suing is way more interesting than the Government trying to ream them.
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Old August 26 2013, 08:16 PM   #157
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Re: And now The Newsroom....

Fantastic episode, from beginning to end. Even though I've found the Genoa story to be somewhat tedious, the execution of how the story crashed and burned was very well done here. Everyone shined in this episode, and yet, Jane Fonda still stole the episode in the final five minutes.
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Old August 26 2013, 08:56 PM   #158
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Awesome episode. It started off in a somewhat disjointed manner but the end more than made up for it. Leona Lansing's rant was fantastic. I loved how the episode ended with her shouting "Then get it back!" I hope they do.

I agree that the way the story fell apart was really well crafted. The meeting between Charlie and that NSA guy was quite chilling. I do have to wonder why no one seems to be worried about that man confessing he originally wanted to murder Charlie. This guy shouldn't probably work in any security position anymore.
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Old August 26 2013, 11:17 PM   #159
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Security?

He's a spook.

His job is to kill people and overthrow tin pot little governments.

I think something like this was from a Sorkin show?

(Sports Night?)

"The world isn't kept in line by armies, it's kept in line by spies killing assholes in secret. Nondescript shadows removing bad guys from play in secret keeping the world safe and I get to sleep at night."
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Old August 27 2013, 03:25 AM   #160
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I'm a little sad that the show won't deal with Sandy. We're already the day before election night. I kept imagining an epic development in one of the love storylines, preferably that between Will and Mac with Sandy as a dramatic background. Oh well. But it's really a missed chance.
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Old August 27 2013, 04:15 AM   #161
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I'm a little sad that the show won't deal with Sandy. We're already the day before election night. I kept imagining an epic development in one of the love storylines, preferably that between Will and Mac with Sandy as a dramatic background. Oh well. But it's really a missed chance.
It's hard to believe they won't do anything about it as, presumably, they'd be able the blacked out areas from their office building. It'd be a major oversight to gloss over it.
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Old August 27 2013, 04:24 AM   #162
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Yeah, I feel like they may address it in one of their flashback sequences.
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Old August 27 2013, 04:44 AM   #163
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Maybe they could get Chris Christie to shoot some extra footage?

That's foot in the door shit.

So they can get him to shoot additional footage after he's elected president.
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Old August 27 2013, 05:01 PM   #164
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I'm a little sad that the show won't deal with Sandy. We're already the day before election night. I kept imagining an epic development in one of the love storylines, preferably that between Will and Mac with Sandy as a dramatic background. Oh well. But it's really a missed chance.
We haven't gotten to November yet in "showtime", its still September.

All of the deposition/mock testimony scenes are taking place over a period of 5 days at the beginning of November (Jim states its been 5 days, Will states that it's the day before the election on November 6th). But as far as the main timeline of the show itself, we're still a couple of days after Benghazi, September 11th 2012. Sandy doesn't happen until the end of October. Unfortunately, there are only two episodes left this season, and by the titles both seem to be about the election. Hurricane Sandy made landfall in New York around the 29th of October, which was only a week before the election. So they may or may not get to it.

I know this season has been wrecking with people's brains as far as the timeline goes, but if you piece it all together it makes sense. All of the scenes with Becca are taking place in November 2012, the season itself started around September 11th 2011, the Uganda trip takes place shortly after that, and Maggie gets her redhead haircut probably on the one year anniversary of the Uganda trip (which is why she's been blond this whole season).
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Old August 27 2013, 08:29 PM   #165
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Well, since the last episode ended shortly before the election and the next two episodes seem to take place on election night, judging by the title (and I might add, the promo and the synopsis), I figured the show had finally caught up to their here and now.

I guess there could be some flashbacks. But that would mean going back behind the emotional culmination of the last episode and I don't really see that happening. But we'll see.
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