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Old August 25 2013, 06:52 PM   #31
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When she left the show they simply crossed out her name in the scripts and had a 'yeoman of the week'

By production order Rand's last episode was #13 "Conscience..."
#14 was Galileo--featuring a one-shot yeoman
#17 was Shore Leave--featuring a one shot yeoman
#18 was Squire --------featuring a one-shot yeoman
#22 was A Taste of----featuring a one shot yeoman

I've also heard that 'Dagger' was originally written for Rand, coming along as just a yeoman rather than 'specialist in criminology' but they were already having 2nd thoughts about the ongoing relationship. The episode refers to the previous 'Christmas party'--which seems like it would be more of a Rand type reference.
Yep. Whitney herself calls "Dagger of the Mind" and "The Galileo Seven" her "least favourite episodes".

Early script treatments for episodes such as "The Trouble with Tribbles" and "City on the Edge of Forever" presumed that Rand would still be with the show.
Yes, I remember reading that article many years ago where she stated those scripts were written for Rand and I have little doubt that several of the following were as well.

I guess i am in the minority--I don't think Whitney was that good, but i do wish they had featured more yeoman as the series went on.
I far prefer how they featured the crew in general in season 1 over the last two.

Season one was the only true ensemble season. showing the same 4 2nd string characters at their familiar stations on the bridge each episode doesn't make a show an 'ensemble'.
Any more than the black guy in the 'cage' with danny devito on Taxi made him part of an ensemble.

The first 15 episodes of TOS featured the crew at rest, the arboretom, the gym, the rec room, Mcgivers painting, Uhura singing, mentioned a 'bowling alley', the crew watching a play, the crew playing chess, mentioned a thanksgiving dinner, a christmas party---even the briefing room conferences got fewer and farther between.

The crewperson guest players in season one were far more common and important---Riley, Bailey, McGivers, Stiles, Boma, Lt Masters, Kelowitz, DeSalle, Barrows, Finney, Giotto and of course Uhura, Sulu & Chapel's part had actual meat to them instead of "aye, sir warp factor 5" and "hailing frequencies open" and "yes , doctor"

I know i am one of the very few who far prefer this aspect of the show to the "BIG THREE" sparing and arguing and beaming down alone as became more and more prevelant as the show wore on.

How many times in season 3 does the 'landing party' consist of Kirk/Spock/Mccoy ? ugh.
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Old August 25 2013, 10:45 PM   #32
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^Good points. There was definitely more of a sense of life aboard the ship in Season 1.
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Old August 25 2013, 10:55 PM   #33
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Money was obviously a problem, leading to fewer extras. By the third season, we already knew anyone other than Kirk, McCoy and Spock in a landing party was probably going to die in the next 2 minutes. But it's too bad Scott, Sulu, Chekov, or Uhura, or even Chapel and Kyle couldn't have been occasionally in those landing parties.
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Old August 25 2013, 10:58 PM   #34
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"Mr. Kyle...what are you doing down here? Who's manning the transporter!?!"
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Old August 25 2013, 11:14 PM   #35
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"They're writing me out in this episode, Captain, I don't know who's up there!"
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Old August 26 2013, 01:01 AM   #36
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I wish characters like Sulu, Chekov, Uhura, & Scotty (well Scotty did the best out of them) had more meat to their roles.

But I for one liked when the guest characters roles got reduced. If I am never going to see them again then I can't bring myself to care. So hence my favorite moments were always with the regular characters not the guest ones. And I admit I do have a penchance for the big 3 and their relationship.

I also never cared for the whole yeoman concept either so I am extra glad that was written out.

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Old August 26 2013, 01:26 AM   #37
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I also never cared for the whole yeoman concept either so I am extra glad that was written out.
Well, someone has to fetch, carry, and be the "gopher."

That said, I never liked Rand. Except for a couple of lines in Miri, she seemed pretty superficial. Uhura's only fault was when she would whine about being "frightened."

Of course, there could be another reason Tonia Barrows never got to come back: she's the only crewmember besides Kirk who got to wander around with a ripped uniform.
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Old August 26 2013, 04:06 AM   #38
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Of course, there could be another reason Tonia Barrows never got to come back: she's the only crewmember besides Kirk who got to wander around with a ripped uniform.
When Barrows was walking around the Shore Leave planet "thinking all a girl needs is Don Juan," the machinery figured she wanted a sex-bot, and built one. Same with Kirk thinking of Ruth.

At the end of the episode, if you check out their smiles when they enter the bridge, it's easy to infer that they indulged after the Caretaker brought them up to speed. Whether Barrows took up with Don Juan or McCoy, she and the men obviously had an adult vacation.

I think it's more fun the way TOS did it versus TNG. With Kirk and company, the viewer can decide how steamy things got. But when Picard or Tasha Yar went to a pleasure planet, I always felt like we were getting a little too much information.
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Old August 26 2013, 02:36 PM   #39
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Picard's reaction when he realized what the horga'hn was for is one of the most priceless moments in TNG.
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Old August 26 2013, 03:04 PM   #40
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^ Helen's velour seems to have shrunk a bit.
Agreed, but it shrank in a very nice way.
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Old August 27 2013, 04:11 PM   #41
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"Mr. Kyle...what are you doing down here? Who's manning the transporter!?!"
According to a friend of mine, John Winston was Gene Coon's barber. Not so coincidentally, Kyle's appearances are in Coon episodes.
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Old August 27 2013, 04:17 PM   #42
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I also never cared for the whole yeoman concept either so I am extra glad that was written out.
"In the United States Navy and United States Coast Guard, a yeoman is a rating usually with secretarial, clerical, payroll or other administrative duties. The first women in the U.S. Navy were Yeomen in World War I."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeoman#United_States

Diana Prince (aka Wonderwoman) was a yeoman in TV's first season of "Wonderwoman".
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Old August 27 2013, 04:56 PM   #43
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I also never cared for the whole yeoman concept either so I am extra glad that was written out.
"In the United States Navy and United States Coast Guard, a yeoman is a rating usually with secretarial, clerical, payroll or other administrative duties. The first women in the U.S. Navy were Yeomen in World War I."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeoman#United_States

Diana Prince (aka Wonderwoman) was a yeoman in TV's first season of "Wonderwoman".

Doesn't make the way the role was written in the actual show any better.
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Old August 27 2013, 05:06 PM   #44
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One problem was TOS seemed to present the yeoman position as strictly a female job. Though there was some guy in The Cage standing around with a clipboard a lot, so he might have been the only male one seen.

Were the Wicked Witch's Winkies in the Wizard of Oz also yeomen? "Yo-ee-oh! Yo-oh!"
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My grandfather loved the cop and action shows in the '70s - especially Wonder Woman. "Come on, turn 'round!" he'd say to the TV whenever it looked like Diana Prince was in trouble or needed to save the day...
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