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Old August 25 2013, 01:37 AM   #1
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Alternative Factor - Worst Episode Ever?

Just watched Alternative Factor for the first time in about 20 years. While it seems like many point to Spock's Brain as the worst episode in the series I think Alternative Factor has it beat - at least I can understand the plot of Spock's Brain (as absurd as it may be). I couldn't explain the plot of Alternative Factor if I had a gun to my head...
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Old August 25 2013, 01:41 AM   #2
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Re: Alternative Factor - Worst Episode Ever?

As long as And the Children Shall Lead... exists, it is no contest.
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Old August 25 2013, 01:51 AM   #3
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Re: Alternative Factor - Worst Episode Ever?

I tried to watch the Alernative Factor the other night and just stopped in the middle. It is if not the worst episode of Trek, it's in the top 5.
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Old August 25 2013, 01:52 AM   #4
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Re: Alternative Factor - Worst Episode Ever?

No, most boring, perhaps, but not the worst, by a long shot.
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Old August 25 2013, 01:54 AM   #5
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Re: Alternative Factor - Worst Episode Ever?

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As long as And the Children Shall Lead... exists, it is no contest.
Word.
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Old August 25 2013, 01:55 AM   #6
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Re: Alternative Factor - Worst Episode Ever?

Weird is better than boring. Thus I nominate That Which Survives as worst. It's like a 10-minute premise stretched to 48.

Boring: bad. Quirky: good.
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Old August 25 2013, 01:56 AM   #7
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Re: Alternative Factor - Worst Episode Ever?

Given that The Empath has never once failed to put me literally to sleep, I must say that for me The Alternative Factor is not the most boring. Nor have I ever had trouble understanding its pathetic shoestring of a plot.

My candidate for worst, though, would be Let That Be Your Last Battlefield, Frank Gorshin's mythical award notwithstanding. That Which Survives, a close second.
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Old August 25 2013, 01:57 AM   #8
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As long as And the Children Shall Lead... exists, it is no contest.
This.

I don't mind "The Alternative Factor." I'll watch it before a lot of other things.
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Old August 25 2013, 02:04 AM   #9
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Alternative Factor - Worst Episode Ever?
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Old August 25 2013, 02:05 AM   #10
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Re: Alternative Factor - Worst Episode Ever?

There is no bad Star Trek. There is only Star Trek.

If you were to remove every episode that people think is bad, just because it doesn't fit the template of "perfect" Trek, there would be about 14-1/2 hours of watchable Trek left.

Me? I accept all of it for what it is.
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Old August 25 2013, 02:06 AM   #11
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As long as And the Children Shall Lead... exists, it is no contest.
Nah, it has the Angel chant. Like "brain and brain" from Spock's Brain or the Eden song from Way to Eden, that puts it above the Alternative Factor.
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Old August 25 2013, 02:11 AM   #12
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There is no bad Star Trek. There is only Star Trek.
There is a ton of bad Star Trek. I just love it all anyway!
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Old August 25 2013, 02:12 AM   #13
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Re: Alternative Factor - Worst Episode Ever?

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There is no bad Star Trek. There is only Star Trek.

If you were to remove every episode that people think is bad, just because it doesn't fit the template of "perfect" Trek, there would be about 14-1/2 hours of watchable Trek left.

Me? I accept all of it for what it is.
What the dog said.

The cheese is all part of the classic pizza that is Star Trek.
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Old August 25 2013, 02:23 AM   #14
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Re: Alternative Factor - Worst Episode Ever?

I really enjoy "Spock's Brain" and "Requiem for Methuselah" for their music scores and beautiful women.

I kind of enjoy "Whom Gods Destroy" and "The Way to Eden" along those lines as well.

"Assignment: Earth", "The Mark of Gideon", and "The Cloud Minders" are almost good.

But everyone has a different list of clunkers. The lower-tier episodes I'm less fond of, from least bad to most awful, are:

"Friday's Child" - Love-it-or-hate-it music score for the planet-side scenes is too heavy for me; men wearing carpets.

"The Alternative Factor" - Confusing and dumb.

"Plato's Stepchildren" - Embarrassing.

"The Savage Curtain" - Give me a break.

"And the Children Shall Lead" - The worst.
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Old August 25 2013, 03:05 AM   #15
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Re: Alternative Factor - Worst Episode Ever?

"The Alternative Factor" suffered a lot of backstage problems. The actor originally hired as Lazarus failed to appear on the first day, saying he forgot, resulting in the studio and/or production filing a grievance against him with the Guild. Robert Brown had to be hired at the last minute and the already built costume refitted. Then there's a questionable change in the script where a love story subplot between Lazarus and Lt. Masters was cut entirely because they'd hired a black actress for the role and were worried about offending parts of the United States.
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