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Old August 15 2013, 09:43 PM   #31
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Re: Lindelof not writing next trek movie?

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That's exactly what I want. Bring back the real SF writers, and I'll be in Trek heaven.
It's not like Star Trek really had them before. You'll live.
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Old August 15 2013, 10:44 PM   #32
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JMS' 2002 proposal didn't say anything about the Enterprise's size. Only that they keep the silhouette but modernize the technology inside and out.
That's exactly what I want. Bring back the real SF writers, and I'll be in Trek heaven.
Who or what is a real SF writer?
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Old August 16 2013, 12:10 PM   #33
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JMS' 2002 proposal didn't say anything about the Enterprise's size. Only that they keep the silhouette but modernize the technology inside and out.
That's exactly what I want. Bring back the real SF writers, and I'll be in Trek heaven.
There's no guarantee that they'll want to write a Star Trek movie (in fact, one professional writer loves STID to bits.)

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Old August 16 2013, 12:18 PM   #34
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Now if only Orci and Kurtzman would bow out (hopefully while issuing an apology for their entire career) I'd be happy.
Hey, I liked Transformers. The only bad parts were a result of Steven Spielberg insisting on the "boy and his car" coming of age story. If they'd cut those parts out, made Josh Duhamel's character the lead, figured out a way to get Optimus Prime in the movie sooner, and tied in the hackers better, it would've been a great movie.
They had to bring in Spike (Sam) Witwicky somehow, so that's what they did. I had no problem with that, unlike most-it brought a human dimension to the movie, just as having Spike in the show did the same thing.
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Old August 16 2013, 12:42 PM   #35
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Whoever the the writer is, he/she has to have demonstrated the ability to write stories in a way that is relevent in a big budget 201x silver screen context, not some mid-1990's TV show.
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Old August 16 2013, 02:07 PM   #36
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^Does the needed skillset differ that much? STID's structure reminds me of a 4-act tv episode, maybe it's that when some say it felt like an TOS episode.
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Old August 16 2013, 05:45 PM   #37
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^Does the needed skillset differ that much? STID's structure reminds me of a 4-act tv episode, maybe it's that when some say it felt like an TOS episode.
TOS was not a mid 90's TV show now was it??

The Original Series focused on adventure packed into 1 hour episodes, where as the 90's Berman formula was to self-indulge in half -baked characterisations and predictable outcomes to their story telling (i.e frequent technobabble far exceeding TOS)

It is insulting to modern audiences to suggest any kind of storywriting and characterisation from DS9/VOY/ENT to make it on the big screen, people expect entertainment and satisfaction from 2 hours not 10 years of TV.
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Old August 16 2013, 08:22 PM   #38
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^THIS.

Time for the obdurate foundamentalist Trek fans among us to stop wishing for the older shows to come back (as much as I loved TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT); it isn't coming back, and people like Orci & Kurtzman are the only ones who would write movie that this that are successful.
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Old August 21 2013, 01:22 AM   #39
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That's exactly what I want. Bring back the real SF writers, and I'll be in Trek heaven.
It's not like Star Trek really had them before.
Aside from Harlan Ellison, David Gerrold, Robert Bloch, Richard Matheson, Theodore Sturgeon, Fredric Brown, Norman Spinrad, Jeremy Bixby, Larry Niven, Diane Duane, Peter Beagle... just off the top of my head.

EDIT: How could I forget Alan Dean Foster?
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Old August 21 2013, 03:44 AM   #40
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But what makes them "real SF writers"?
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Old August 23 2013, 10:31 PM   #41
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But what makes them "real SF writers"?
They predominantly write SF and understand its unique requirements.
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Old August 23 2013, 10:35 PM   #42
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I don't care if they're real sci-fi writers or not, just that they're good writers. The ones we have aren't, and people like Harlan Ellison and Alan Dean Foster are.
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Old August 23 2013, 10:43 PM   #43
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Re: Lindelof not writing next trek movie?

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That's exactly what I want. Bring back the real SF writers, and I'll be in Trek heaven.
It's not like Star Trek really had them before.
Aside from Harlan Ellison, David Gerrold, Robert Bloch, Richard Matheson, Theodore Sturgeon, Fredric Brown, Norman Spinrad, Jeremy Bixby, Larry Niven, Diane Duane, Peter Beagle... just off the top of my head.

EDIT: How could I forget Alan Dean Foster?
Did Duane or Foster write for the show?
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Old August 24 2013, 12:37 AM   #44
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They predominantly write SF and understand its unique requirements.
That makes them prolific science fiction writers. They aren't any more "real" than if I were to sit down, write a story, and call it sci-fi.
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Old August 24 2013, 02:07 AM   #45
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hey the last time i heard the current writing team is stepping down for the writers of thor and xmen first class are they still going to be involved?
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