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Old August 23 2013, 10:22 PM   #16
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I'm guessing his career has dried up if he has to resort to phoning his publicist and demanding they tell the world his sexual orientation.

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While most people would think "Who cares?!" there are others who applaud an LGBT celebrity's coming out, giving hope and inspiration to younger gay people, especially those victims of bullying.
Will young gay people at school really find it particularly inspiring that a millionaire had to keep his sexuality secret for decades and decades in order to increase his chance at success?
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Old August 23 2013, 10:26 PM   #17
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Speaking as a gay male? It certainly can't hurt to know that there are more gay people out there.
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Old August 23 2013, 10:39 PM   #18
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DalekJim wrote: View Post
I'm guessing his career has dried up if he has to resort to phoning his publicist and demanding they tell the world his sexual orientation.

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While most people would think "Who cares?!" there are others who applaud an LGBT celebrity's coming out, giving hope and inspiration to younger gay people, especially those victims of bullying.
Will young gay people at school really find it particularly inspiring that a millionaire had to keep his sexuality secret for decades and decades in order to increase his chance at success?
It's amazing how for being someone who allegedly has nothing against gay people, you're always Johnny on the spot when it comes time to make the most negative assumptions about them possible or to defend someone who is being rabidly homophobic. Why not sit out a couple of threads so your tolerance level has time to recharge a bit?
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Old August 23 2013, 11:05 PM   #19
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He came out publicly because he was invited as guest of honour to a Russian film festival, the point was to draw attention to their atrocious laws. It was very thoughtful of him to out himself like that.

It's pathetic people would cynically attack him over this.
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Old August 23 2013, 11:34 PM   #20
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It's amazing how for being someone who allegedly has nothing against gay people, you're always Johnny on the spot when it comes time to make the most negative assumptions about them possible
You're really playing that card?

I'm the guy that spent a whole Doctor Who thread defending JNT, and defended gay rights in the Orson Scott Card thread. Think before you spew your hateful shit. Hell, I've even done gay stuff myself.

Calling me a homophobe for giving my opinion on a publicity event? How that fuck is that acceptable? I'm tired of you thinking you're above every forum rule just because you're a moderator.

This is the part where you insult other users just for being friends with me. Go!
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Old August 24 2013, 12:18 AM   #21
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He's probably older NOW... But surely your mental snapshot of the man is from ten years ago?
He looks surprisingly boyish for 41.
I'll say.
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Old August 24 2013, 12:42 AM   #22
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I read the thread title wrong at least once.

The last gay outing.

(Or at least the last one that deserves a massive press conference.)

Darren Young, a WWE Superstar came out last week.

There will never be a last outing.
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Old August 24 2013, 01:10 AM   #23
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Speaking as a gay male? It certainly can't hurt to know that there are more gay people out there.
More so when you are older and hot. The more the better.
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Old August 24 2013, 01:13 AM   #24
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and defended gay rights in the Orson Scott Card thread.
What? All I remember is you defending Card and complaining about political correctness. You can't keep aligning yourself with those who say bigoted things and then act shocked when you're called on it.
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Old August 24 2013, 01:17 AM   #25
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Sure you can.

Anyone can.

It's called hypocrisy.
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Old August 24 2013, 01:17 AM   #26
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What? All I remember is you defending Card and complaining about political correctness. You can't keep aligning yourself with those who say bigoted things and then act shocked when you're called on it.
I wasn't defending Card, I was defending free speech. Something you will never be able to understand as your brain is stuck in this ridiculous false dilemma of Democrats vs Republicans. If any gay person has been offended by my posts then that is a shame, but I've said nothing remotely homophobic.

I support free speech and free sexual expression. I think Orson Scott Card should be able to insult gay people, and I think men should openly be able to fuck in the streets. You, on the other hand, try to prove how tolerant and neo-liberal you are by shitting on other people and declaring homophobia where there evidently is none.

By all means accuse me of being cantankerous, bitter, or mean-spirited towards Mr. Miller as an individual, but calling me a bigot or homophobe is just disgraceful.

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Sure you can.

Anyone can.

It's called hypocrisy.
Put up or shut up, what have I said that is hypocritical?
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Old August 24 2013, 01:32 AM   #27
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If multiple people are telling you that you're coming across a certain way then the problem resides with you, not them.

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Something you will never be able to understand as your brain is stuck in this ridiculous false dilemma of Democrats vs Republicans.
I'm a socialist.
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Old August 24 2013, 01:36 AM   #28
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If multiple people are telling you that you're coming across a certain way then the problem resides with you, not them.
Wow. By your own logic, gay people shouldn't come out at as homosexual all because homophobic bullies are justified in their opinions because of their number? There has to be something wrong with gays because multiple people tell them that. Right?

What amazing principles you live by. Truly. Morality decided by numeracy. How wonderfully anti-individual.

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Lots of people in the world have a problem with that. Sorry bud, you'll have to quit.
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Old August 24 2013, 01:40 AM   #29
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If multiple people are telling you that you're coming across a certain way then the problem resides with you, not them.
Wow. By your own logic, then gay people shouldn't come out at as homosexual all because homophobic bullies are justified in their opinions because of their number?

What amazing moral principles you live by. Truly.


Nice try but no.

Listen, if people on this board keep telling you that you're coming across in a certain way, and people DO keep telling you that, then you're going to need to learn that this means, in all likelihood, that the problem is you, not everyone else. A crucial lesson that social interaction teaches is that if everyone clashes with you then it's likely not everyone else's fault.
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Old August 24 2013, 01:42 AM   #30
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He came out publicly because he was invited as guest of honour to a Russian film festival, the point was to draw attention to their atrocious laws. It was very thoughtful of him to out himself like that.

It's pathetic people would cynically attack him over this.
Agreed. This is a perfect time to come out if one wants to send a clear message to those who would be hateful and bigoted. Might as well use that notoriety for something positive.
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