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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 139 19.39%
A 157 21.90%
A- 98 13.67%
B+ 77 10.74%
B 58 8.09%
B- 27 3.77%
C+ 38 5.30%
C 37 5.16%
C- 23 3.21%
D+ 11 1.53%
D 13 1.81%
D- 6 0.84%
F 33 4.60%
Voters: 717. You may not vote on this poll

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Old August 22 2013, 10:34 AM   #4606
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Funny, considering George Lucas could have said the same to Pegg regarding his hatred of The Phantom Menace. The shoe is on the other foot now.
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Old August 22 2013, 02:05 PM   #4607
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Funny, considering George Lucas could have said the same to Pegg regarding his hatred of The Phantom Menace. The shoe is on the other foot now.
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The difference is, unlike the prequels, these flms have been pretty universally praised by the film review community. Heck looking at the the audience approval ratings on various sites, they're all sitting at a very high level as well. The criticism comes from a very loud select section of the fanbase who thinks that their view of what Star Trek should be is the reality of what it is, and anything that doesn't meet their narrowly defined view is crap. Pegg is absolutely right. If someone doesn't like the film because they didn't enjoy it, then they have their right to. It's the people who claim, "Well its just a summer blockbuster, it's not Star Trek", while having no actual authority over what is and isn't, that he is talking to I figure.
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Old August 22 2013, 02:18 PM   #4608
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The difference is, unlike the prequels, these flms have been pretty universally praised by the film review community.
That's true...and that makes Pegg seem like even more of a baby because of it. A hundred people voted it worst, boo-friggin'-hoo. A lot of people loved it and it made a butt-load of money, so who cares?
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Old August 22 2013, 02:26 PM   #4609
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Funny, considering George Lucas could have said the same to Pegg regarding his hatred of The Phantom Menace. The shoe is on the other foot now.
Simon Pegg has also called Babylon 5 shit.

Total hypocrisy.
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Old August 22 2013, 02:54 PM   #4610
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The criticism comes from a very loud select section of the fanbase who thinks that their view of what Star Trek should be is the reality of what it is, and anything that doesn't meet their narrowly defined view is crap.
That better defines criticism of STXI. STID, aka "we gotta do Khan because we're out of ideas and people just want to see their childhoods raped again" is a different animal.
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Old August 22 2013, 03:06 PM   #4611
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STID, aka "we gotta do Khan because we're out of ideas and people just want to see their childhoods raped again" is a different animal.
Did you actually think before you posted that? Do you have any idea how childish that sounds? It's a movie. Some find it entertaining, others don't. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Old August 22 2013, 03:42 PM   #4612
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It's a movie. Some find it entertaining, others don't. Nothing more, nothing less.
Tell that to Simon Pegg, who feels it is acceptable to hurl abuse at people for merely ranking STID as their least favourite Star Trek film in a poll.
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Old August 22 2013, 04:06 PM   #4613
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Maybe Simon Pegg is just annoyed that these people will never shut up about how much they hate the movie not matter how much time passes, as well as the fact that they will just randomly bring said hatred up in conversations that have nothing to do with said movie.

Because I know I am.

I mean don't these people have lives or something.
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Old August 22 2013, 04:10 PM   #4614
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Well, I suppose it comes down to which you think is more morally acceptable out of not liking a movie, or yelling abuse at people for not liking a movie.

I don't even rate STID as the worst Trek film, I think it's a largely passable, mindless runaround that I'd certainly rather watch again than Generations. Doesn't stop people having the right to claim Generations as the best and STID as the worst without being shouted down though.
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Old August 22 2013, 04:18 PM   #4615
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Maybe Simon Pegg is just annoyed that these people will never shut up about how much they hate the movie not matter how much time passes, as well as the fact that they will just randomly bring said hatred up in conversations that have nothing to do with said movie.

Because I know I am.

I mean don't these people have lives or something.
You'd think they did, but apparently not.
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Old August 22 2013, 04:41 PM   #4616
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Well, I suppose it comes down to which you think is more morally acceptable out of not liking a movie,
And there in lies the problem, ascribing a moral imperative to your OPINION.

Heres the thing I don't care if someone likes the movie or not I just don't want to hear about how much they hate it non stop for another 4 f@#king years just because they think their the second coming of Roger Ebert or something (which they aren't).

Look no one is going to be converted to the haters side, they are just being annoying.
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Old August 22 2013, 05:18 PM   #4617
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It's a movie. Some find it entertaining, others don't. Nothing more, nothing less.
Tell that to Simon Pegg, who feels it is acceptable to hurl abuse at people for merely ranking STID as their least favourite Star Trek film in a poll.
Or he's just saying what a lot of the rest of us are saying.
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Old August 22 2013, 05:50 PM   #4618
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It's a movie. Some find it entertaining, others don't. Nothing more, nothing less.
Tell that to Simon Pegg, who feels it is acceptable to hurl abuse at people for merely ranking STID as their least favourite Star Trek film in a poll.
Or he's just saying what a lot of the rest of us are saying.
Ah, that makes it perfectly acceptable then.

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Heres the thing I don't care if someone likes the movie or not I just don't want to hear about how much they hate it non stop for another 4 f@#king years just because they think their the second coming of Roger Ebert or something (which they aren't).
Must be horrible for you having to hear about people liking different things . For four years, no less.
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Old August 22 2013, 06:08 PM   #4619
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Funny, considering George Lucas could have said the same to Pegg regarding his hatred of The Phantom Menace. The shoe is on the other foot now.
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Except for the fact general audiences and critics (which was NOT the case for STID) ALSO panned The Phantom Menace.
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Old August 22 2013, 06:09 PM   #4620
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Tell that to Simon Pegg, who feels it is acceptable to hurl abuse at people for merely ranking STID as their least favourite Star Trek film in a poll.
Or he's just saying what a lot of the rest of us are saying.
Ah, that makes it perfectly acceptable then.

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Heres the thing I don't care if someone likes the movie or not I just don't want to hear about how much they hate it non stop for another 4 f@#king years just because they think their the second coming of Roger Ebert or something (which they aren't).
Must be horrible for you having to hear about people liking different things . For four years, no less.
Yes it is acceptable. Just cause he's an a public figure doesn't mean he has any requirement to express his opinion in a sugar coated way.
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