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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 144 19.38%
A 161 21.67%
A- 100 13.46%
B+ 82 11.04%
B 58 7.81%
B- 27 3.63%
C+ 40 5.38%
C 38 5.11%
C- 24 3.23%
D+ 11 1.48%
D 13 1.75%
D- 10 1.35%
F 35 4.71%
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Old August 20 2013, 04:32 PM   #4591
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STiD is absolutely nowhere even near the worst or one of the worst.
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Old August 20 2013, 04:47 PM   #4592
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Kirk - and other captains - broke the prime directive so many times with little to no consequences on tv. So as a fan I had troubles reconciling that with him getting his ass handed to him by starfleet command in this movie.
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Old August 20 2013, 05:01 PM   #4593
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Because Spock reported it to Admiral Pike, wheras it was always covered up in The Original Series. See Voyager's "Flashback" when Janeway talks about how vague some of the old Enterprise logs were.
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Old August 20 2013, 05:23 PM   #4594
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Because Spock reported it to Admiral Pike, wheras it was always covered up in The Original Series.
I realize it's not meant to be taken too seriously, but that kind of interpretation makes Starfleet Command look like clueless idiots and the senior officers of the Enterprise look like renegade insubordinates.
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Old August 20 2013, 05:31 PM   #4595
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That's pretty much how it's been all along. Take a look at the clueless overseers and commisioners that Kirk had to deal with on the original show. The Federation always wanted things done one (usually ridiculous) way, Kirk always knew better.
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Old August 20 2013, 08:54 PM   #4596
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I thought the title "Into Darkness" was strange, because it really had nothing to do with the movie. It seems as though J.J. Abrams just chose it as a title because it was dramatic.
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Old August 20 2013, 11:14 PM   #4597
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I thought the title "Into Darkness" was strange, because it really had nothing to do with the movie. It seems as though J.J. Abrams just chose it as a title because it was dramatic.
a Starfleet Admiral builds a Dreadnought in secret and has plans to START a Federation/Klingon war...
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Yep, I don't know how "Into Darkness" relates to the story of the Federation official disavowing Federation principles to start a war.
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Old August 21 2013, 01:00 AM   #4598
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I thought the title "Into Darkness" was strange, because it really had nothing to do with the movie. It seems as though J.J. Abrams just chose it as a title because it was dramatic.

Losing Pike (as a mentor / father-figure influence) in the way that he did, and coupled with Kirk's statement of "I have no idea what I'm supposed to do, only what I can do..." - against the backdrop of the off-the-grid/under-the-radar 'go after John Harrison' mission, prompted by Marcus - suggesting a mission outside of the realm of Starfleet and into something of an unknown terrorist threat (even before the USS Vengeance / Khan reveals) - the title of the movie makes perfect tonal sense, IMO.

It's also in keeping with almost all the other Trek movie titles ever used as well.

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Old August 21 2013, 03:41 AM   #4599
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I thought it was supposed to be a play on "Heart of Darkness."

I mean, taken from Heart of Darkness's wiki page:

The story is a thematic exploration of the savagery-versus-civilization relationship, and of the colonialism and the racism that make imperialism possible.
Pretty much sums up STiD.
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Old August 21 2013, 11:18 PM   #4600
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Movie is up on Itunes for purchase.

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Old August 22 2013, 03:48 AM   #4601
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Just for fun, I took the footage from Into Darkness when Scotty calls up to Spock, "You better get down here, better hurry," and put it to the music from the same moment in The Wrath of Khan to see if they'd fit together.

I was a little surprised that they did!
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Old August 22 2013, 04:20 AM   #4602
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Just for fun, I took the footage from Into Darkness when Scotty calls up to Spock, "You better get down here, better hurry," and put it to the music from the same moment in The Wrath of Khan to see if they'd fit together.

I was a little surprised that they did!
Ooh! I wanna see!
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Old August 22 2013, 04:40 AM   #4603
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Gotta love Simon Pegg: Simon Pegg: 'F--- You' if You Think 'Star Trek Into Darkness' Sucks

Pegg was surprised, responding, "It absolutely isn't the worst 'Star Trek' movie," Pegg said. "It's asinine, you know? It's ridiculous. And frustrating."

He continued, "To be subject to that level of sort of, like, crass f---ing ire, I just say f--- you."
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Old August 22 2013, 05:13 AM   #4604
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Funny, considering George Lucas could have said the same to Pegg regarding his hatred of The Phantom Menace. The shoe is on the other foot now.
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Old August 22 2013, 06:23 AM   #4605
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I just downloaded the itunes version and watched it again. God what a great fucking movie. And go Simon Pegg, the hardcore fanbase that hate this movie would have hated it no matter what. They shouldn't be pandered to, or listened to.
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