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Old May 9 2013, 12:01 PM   #61
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Yep, Ender understanding the enemy, loving them, and the using that to destroy them is kinda the whole point...
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Old May 9 2013, 03:07 PM   #62
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Yep, Ender understanding the enemy, loving them, and the using that to destroy them is kinda the whole point...
As if mainstream Hollywood understands any point.. my bet is a generic resolution. Ender has some super secret awesome military tactic (he probably was inspired by or learned from Rackham) up his sleeve and pulls it out at the very last moment to win the day.. cue The End.

I just don't believe they'll go with the book ending as good as it is.

And on an unrelated note:

I was really bummed out when i learned that Orson Scott Card is such an ass
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Old May 9 2013, 03:44 PM   #63
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.... Peter and Val's big contribution is in their writing and politics, and rumor was that that won't be in this, doesn't really fit....
I though it didn't really fit in the book either.
I love the xkcd comic that takes the piss out of that whole story. Thirty years ago, maybe it seemed plausible, but the fragmentation of the Internet today makes it sound absurd.
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Old May 9 2013, 07:08 PM   #64
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I can't see them putting the twist into it. The trailer kinda gave away the ending:



I'll wait to see if posters here like it.
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Old May 17 2013, 04:44 PM   #65
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I don't like the trailer. I've seen it several times now and I think the casting for the adults is all wrong. Maybe if i could see an actual clip of the movie I would disagree.
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Old August 21 2013, 05:01 PM   #66
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New Trailer: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/enders-game/trailers/
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Old August 27 2013, 03:26 AM   #67
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I just finished reading the book tonight and I really enjoyed it. I consider it another novel I wish I had read years ago.

I'm not sure how it will adapt onscreen. I did read in the Entertainment Weekly last year that the dark ending would be retained.
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Old October 24 2013, 05:56 PM   #68
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It is currently at 63% at Rotten Tomatoes. That could be a lot worse, but it is not boding as well as I had hoped. Especially since some of the positive reviews sound just barely positive.
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Old October 24 2013, 07:17 PM   #69
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Yep, Ender understanding the enemy, loving them, and the using that to destroy them is kinda the whole point...
As if mainstream Hollywood understands any point.. my bet is a generic resolution. Ender has some super secret awesome military tactic (he probably was inspired by or learned from Rackham) up his sleeve and pulls it out at the very last moment to win the day.. cue The End.

I just don't believe they'll go with the book ending as good as it is.

And on an unrelated note:

I was really bummed out when i learned that Orson Scott Card is such an ass
I'm definitely going to see this and ignore Scott's assness. Genuinely could be better than Star Wars if it turns out right.

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Old October 25 2013, 11:33 PM   #70
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Just watched the HBO special. Some of the visuals are amazing. The work they did for the zero-G in the Battle Room was pretty incredible and groundbreaking, perhaps even Oscar worthy.

One thing I noticed is they never mentioned Uncle Orson by name. Usually the author gets at least one name drop in these things. Wounder if there really is that much bad blood...
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Old October 26 2013, 03:20 AM   #71
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One thing I noticed is they never mentioned Uncle Orson by name. Usually the author gets at least one name drop in these things. Wounder if there really is that much bad blood...
Considering there's talk of boycotting the movie and forming picket lines outside theatres because of him, I'm not surprised.
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Old October 26 2013, 08:28 AM   #72
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In some ways I agree with your spoiler comment about mainstream movie expectations and tolerances, but if you change that the whole story has a different message and meaning. It becomes a standard earth vs aliens story that just happens to have a teen as the hero...
Its possible to still tell a compelling story if you let the audience in on the twist before letting Ender himself be in on it. The whole point is for the audience to feel pity for Ender. Sure, it plays a different emotion, and you lose the shock value, but instead it also adds a whole dimension to the sense of urgency expressed by the adult characters. Now the audience gets to go the whole movie knowing what the stakes are.

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Old October 27 2013, 02:49 AM   #73
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I don't know about that, regarding motivation. The whole point was that Ender, all along, did not know. He thought he was playing a game up until the end. To remove that from him and from the audience? I don't know...to me, it negates a significant aspect of the story, one of the core themes. Honestly, there are a lot of themes that could be discussed in this book.

Damn Card and his attitude. I'm really torn about seeing this in the theater--but I don't want to dismiss the work of all these others because the conception was by a jerk.
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Old October 27 2013, 02:56 AM   #74
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If Card wasn't a producer, I would be willing to go see this. But since he is a producer that means some of the money does go to him, and now that I'm aware of his politics I'm not willing to support anything that gives money to him. It's aggravating, because I read the book years ago in school, before I knew about his politics, and I really enjoyed it.
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Old October 27 2013, 02:59 AM   #75
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Damn Card and his attitude. I'm really torn about seeing this in the theater--but I don't want to dismiss the work of all these others because the conception was by a jerk.
Look at it this way: Would you knowingly go to see a shite film just because the guy who wrote it is a really nice person? I know I wouldn't.
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