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Old August 19 2013, 10:47 PM   #1
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Potentially stupid questions

Because we all have them.

How is Glinn Dygan's name pronounced? Die-gan? Dee-gan? D'gan? Over the course of one book he managed to become one of my favourite characters, so I'm curious.

And, a mild Cold Equations spoiler:

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Old August 19 2013, 10:55 PM   #2
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Re: Potentially stupid questions

While readying Plagues of Night & Raise the Dawn I pronounced Dygan, Die-gan.
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Old August 19 2013, 11:20 PM   #3
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Re: Potentially stupid questions

"Die-gan" (with a hard G) is my first instinct too, but I'm in the country immediately south of Canada (since I read today that some people in Latin and South America resent people from a certain country in North America calling themselves "Americans"), so maybe pronunciation is different.

If you're really in doubt, you could try writing the author to ask.
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Old August 19 2013, 11:44 PM   #4
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Is he in Brinkmanship or the Cold Equations trilogy? Una McCormack and David Mack both post here.
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Old August 20 2013, 12:04 AM   #5
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I read Dygan's name as Dee-gahn.

And as my college professor's used to say, 'The only "stupid" question is the one that's not asked!'
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Old August 20 2013, 12:12 AM   #6
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I checked Memory Alpha's list of named Cardassians, and the only one I could find that used the letter Y as a vowel was Tekeny Ghemor. By that precedent, it might be "Dee-gan." But who knows if a terminal Y is pronounced the same as an internal Y? And since it's apparently so unusual in Cardassian names, it might be from an uncommon language/culture and thus there's no telling how it might be pronounced.
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Old August 20 2013, 05:10 AM   #7
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That's a moment that could be played up in a story, too. Two characters meet, the first one mentions Dygan, the other says "Who?" and it's because the first guy is pronouncing the name differently. "Oh," the second guy says, "you're using the colonial pronunciation. He uses the imperial form." That way, we still don't know.
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Old August 20 2013, 03:12 PM   #8
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That's a moment that could be played up in a story, too. Two characters meet, the first one mentions Dygan, the other says "Who?" and it's because the first guy is pronouncing the name differently. "Oh," the second guy says, "you're using the colonial pronunciation. He uses the imperial form." That way, we still don't know.
Haha, love it!

I say "DIE-gan". The shows' producers always seemed to give Cardassians very strong-sounding (to Anglophone American ears, at least) names, and I think "DEE-gan" would sound too... prissy? I think it sounds vaguely upper-class European (particularly French or German) and Cardassian names have never really struck me like that.

(Hopefully that made some sense...)
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Old August 20 2013, 03:51 PM   #9
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Re: Potentially stupid questions

In Australia in 1970-71, we had a local TV series called "Dynasty" (pronounced "dinn-asty"), long before the more infamous US TV series of 1981-89 called "Dynasty" (pronounced, appropriately, "die nasty").
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Old August 20 2013, 04:22 PM   #10
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In Australia in 1970-71, we had a local TV series called "Dynasty" (pronounced "dinn-asty"), long before the more infamous US TV series of 1981-89 called "Dynasty" (pronounced, appropriately, "die nasty").
Ahh, yes, I remember how I discovered that difference between the US and British (and Australian) pronunciations of the word. Back in the '80s, I attended a small Doctor Who convention whose guest was Sarah Sutton (Nyssa), and in her talk she referred to the US soap opera as "Dysentery or Dynasty or whatever." Which is a pun that could only work with a British accent, because she said it as "dis-un-tree or dinn-uh-stee," whereas for an American it would be "dis-un-tare-ee or die-nuh-stee," so they wouldn't sound at all alike.
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Old August 20 2013, 11:26 PM   #11
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Okay. Since someone started this thread and it's called for stupid questions, I've had one for years ut been to embarrassed to ask...

How do you pronounce Aventine ? It's been driving me nuts every time I read about it in the novels.

Is it Aventine as in with the ending sounding like breen? Or does it have like a sound that sounds like pine?
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Old August 20 2013, 11:38 PM   #12
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I've always pronounced it like "pine".
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Old August 20 2013, 11:59 PM   #13
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I've heard Dave Mack say it aloud at Shore Leave, and I think he rhymed it with "pine." I know it was the opposite of what I was assuming, and I tend to default to the "-een" pronunciation in my head.
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Old August 21 2013, 12:09 AM   #14
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Mirriam-Webster lists long "I" first, but also long "E": http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/aventine
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Old August 21 2013, 12:15 AM   #15
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Re: Potentially stupid questions

^I agree with JD.
According to the Oxford dictionary it is <ˈævəntaɪn>, so like "pine".

I would put Dygan's pronunciation as <djgan> - based on the Cardassian language found on the internet, but based on English, it should probably be <daɪgn>.
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