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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 144 19.33%
A 161 21.61%
A- 100 13.42%
B+ 82 11.01%
B 58 7.79%
B- 27 3.62%
C+ 40 5.37%
C 38 5.10%
C- 25 3.36%
D+ 11 1.48%
D 13 1.74%
D- 10 1.34%
F 36 4.83%
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Old July 30 2013, 09:36 PM   #4576
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This forum ? The WORLD would be much nicher if that happened.
I figured I'd start small. But seriously, for fans of a show that promotes peace amongst mankind, you'd think they'd be more tolerant towards eachother.
I'd avoid the Neutral Zone forum if I were you. Just sayin'...
The Neutral Zone is awesome. I love the anything goes format.
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Old July 30 2013, 11:37 PM   #4577
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Old July 31 2013, 09:12 AM   #4578
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I figured I'd start small. But seriously, for fans of a show that promotes peace amongst mankind, you'd think they'd be more tolerant towards eachother.
I'd avoid the Neutral Zone forum if I were you. Just sayin'...
The Neutral Zone is awesome. I love the anything goes format.
I guess I can't see that part of the forum.
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Old July 31 2013, 09:23 AM   #4579
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I guess I can't see that part of the forum.
Cloaking Device.
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Old July 31 2013, 09:48 AM   #4580
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I guess I can't see that part of the forum.
Cloaking Device.
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Old August 2 2013, 02:26 AM   #4581
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Old August 4 2013, 03:43 AM   #4582
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Finally got around to voting... solid A. Lacked a classic scene like the intro to Star Trek '09, otherwise would've gotten that plus, alhough Pike dying came close to evoking that ultimate grade.
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Old August 13 2013, 12:07 AM   #4583
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I thought it was dark but not as good as my fave first contact
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Old August 18 2013, 06:51 PM   #4584
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Have to give it an F and rank it the worst Star Trek film. The dialogue of the protagonists was mediocre, the action boring and the plotting very convoluted and unbelieaveable.

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What he did on Nibiru was against regulations and against the Prime Directive but was it morally wrong? After all, he saved a civilisation from extinction and the presence of the Enterprise was only revealed because he chose to save Spock instead of letting him die.
He seemed overly cavalier about his decision compared to how others regarded the Prime Directive and it didn't make sense that Spock wouldn't have objected, let alone to the point of playing the major role, and then not try to defend the decision later.

There's a difference between reusing a story and thematic idea and blatantly trying to remake much of a story; I thought Enterprise "Terra Nova" and Nemesis were much too close to past works and thus some of my least favorite (although "Friendship One" was very recent and bad to begin with).

As for the Eve in underwear scene, it seemed pointless but worse because I didn't like Kirk ignoring her telling him to turn around; the original Kirk would never do that but it seemed, unfortunately, like only a small stretch for Abrams version.

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Did you find it believable that Uhura would love Spock but be so unaccepting, almost not even understanding, about his reserved, logical nature or that Spock wouldn't alert Kirk about Carol's identity earlier (or that he would contact his alternate self from the bridge)?
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Old August 19 2013, 02:35 AM   #4585
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Oh this is gonna be fun!
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Old August 19 2013, 09:16 AM   #4586
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Have to give it an F and rank it the worst Star Trek film. The dialogue of the protagonists was mediocre, the action boring and the plotting very convoluted and unbelieaveable.
Don't worry, you are not the only one who feels that way about STID.
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Old August 19 2013, 10:50 AM   #4587
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He seemed overly cavalier about his decision compared to how others regarded the Prime Directive and it didn't make sense that Spock wouldn't have objected, let alone to the point of playing the major role, and then not try to defend the decision later.
You think Spock would happily a planet full of innocents die? Spock didn't think Kirk would cover up the mission.
There's a difference between reusing a story and thematic idea and blatantly trying to remake much of a story; I thought Enterprise "Terra Nova" and Nemesis were much too close to past works and thus some of my least favorite (although "Friendship One" was very recent and bad to begin with).

As for the Eve in underwear scene, it seemed pointless but worse because I didn't like Kirk ignoring her telling him to turn around; the original Kirk would never do that but it seemed, unfortunately, like only a small stretch for Abrams version.
Take a look at the nasty red marks Shatner's Grabby Kirk left on Reyna's arms in "Requiem for Muthuselah" - Pine's Kirk would never do something like that.
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STAR TREK IS: Space opera, action and adventure, playing fast and loose with real science to make it fit whatever serves the plot. Character chemistry, interaction, making the story play well onscreen. Characters are the focus.
Did you find it believable that Uhura would love Spock but be so unaccepting, almost not even understanding, about his reserved, logical nature
She was bothered by his willingness to put himself in danger and his post-Vulcan lack of communication, not his Vulcan nature. As was explained on the ride to Kronos.
or that Spock wouldn't alert Kirk about Carol's identity earlier (or that he would contact his alternate self from the bridge)?
Yes and yes.
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Old August 19 2013, 01:58 PM   #4588
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Have to give it an F and rank it the worst Star Trek film.
I'd rank it as one of the weakest but objectively speaking, I think Generations remains the worst.
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Old August 19 2013, 03:19 PM   #4589
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STiD is absolutely nowhere even near the worst or one of the worst.
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Old August 19 2013, 04:24 PM   #4590
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The dialogue of the protagonists was mediocre, the action boring and the plotting very convoluted and unbelieaveable.
You pretty much just described every Trek film in a nutshell.
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