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Old August 16 2013, 08:42 PM   #46
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No, just Doctor Who and his true love that god awful Sherlock.

Good point. Maybe Davros there is from after the Stolen Earth. That's why only his head survives. But either way, I don't like having Skaro back unless we have a whole episode devoted to brining it back properly.

Then again, in remembrance, the Hand of Omega destroyed Skaro in 1963, so unless every Dalek story with Skaro is set before 1963, there's a continuity hole bigger than Moffat's ego.
Why are you compaining about Skaro existing after Remembrance in Moffat Who? Doesn't the beginning of The Enemy Within, tell us Seven picked up the Master from Skaro, long after Remembrance (In Seven's Time Line)
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Old August 16 2013, 08:43 PM   #47
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Actually the dialog implies the "Hand of Omega" traveled through time when it approached Skaro's sun. Here's the transcript.

DAVROS: I will teach you the folly of your words, Doctor. I will destroy you and demonstrate the power of the Daleks!
DOCTOR [on screen]: Davros, I beg of you, don't use the Hand.
DAVROS: Ah, Doctor, now you begin to fear.
DOCTOR [on screen]: You're making a grave mistake.
DAVROS: Activate the Omega device!
DALEK: Omega device activated.
(A little star flies out of the Mothership.)
DALEK 2: Plotting course to home planet Skaro.
DAVROS: Now the Daleks shall become the Lords of Time!
DALEK 2: Entering Skaro time zone. First stage expansion. Primary neutrino release.
DALEK: Core collapse instigated.
DALEK 2: Danger! Instability! Reaction out of control.
DAVROS: No, this cannot be correct!
DALEK: Home planet Skaro about to vapourise.
(The Hand leaves the system as the star goes supernova and takes the planets with it.)

Hopefully someone else can remember the line, but earlier in that serial, I believe it's stated the Daleks had traveled back in time to 1963. So the "Hand" actually made Skaro's sun of the distant future (relative to 1963) go supernova.

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Old August 16 2013, 08:48 PM   #48
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BTW, for anyone wanting to quote exact lines from the various serisla, I recommend this site.

http://www.chakoteya.net/doctorwho/index.htm

This is where I grabbed the exchange posted above.

It's a great resource!

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Old August 16 2013, 10:34 PM   #49
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Oh. You have a point guys.

So basically, Skaro being destroyed wasn't even a big deal? So basically, all the Daleks got pissy over nothing? Oh.

Well if the 96 film/Enemy Within says so, it is. Also remember that the Enemy Within said the doctor is half human, so if I have to accept Skaro could still be around, you have to accept the doctor is half human.
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Old August 16 2013, 10:43 PM   #50
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It was a big deal to those Daleks, as it happened in their home time. Probably. Causing the Time War (probably). Which rewrote a lot of history (probably...).
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Old August 18 2013, 01:24 PM   #51
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Doctor Who is not the best series for anyone who enjoys a coherent continuity.
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Old August 18 2013, 06:16 PM   #52
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Doctor Who is not the best series for anyone who enjoys a coherent continuity.
Speaking as a Highlander fan, its a lot more coherent than it isn't. Plus, with a show that has run for a collective 34 years, its not as bad as one'd think.
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Old August 19 2013, 01:33 AM   #53
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Doctor Who is not the best series for anyone who enjoys a coherent continuity.
Speaking as a Highlander fan, its a lot more coherent than it isn't. Plus, with a show that has run for a collective 34 years, its not as bad as one'd think.
It's not bad, but continuity is not the writers' priority.
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Old August 19 2013, 02:18 AM   #54
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Doctor Who is not the best series for anyone who enjoys a coherent continuity.
Speaking as a Highlander fan, its a lot more coherent than it isn't. Plus, with a show that has run for a collective 34 years, its not as bad as one'd think.
It's not bad, but continuity is not the writers' priority.
It shouldn't be their first priority (their first priority SHOULD be to tell a good story), but as you said, its not bad at all.

Yeah, we kinda agree, don't we?
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Old August 19 2013, 04:35 AM   #55
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Yeah, we kinda agree, don't we?
Damn. Yes, we do. What happened to us, man???
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Old August 19 2013, 01:28 PM   #56
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In a show about Time Travel, they can simple say Time was re-written.
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Old October 22 2013, 03:51 PM   #57
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My marathon continues and, at this rate, I should have finished before the anniversary special next month. Ace!

I recently wrote a summary of the sixth Doctor, here.

And I've just started watching the seventh, here.
(I hope you enjoy reading that more than I enjoyed watching it. Urk!)
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Old August 7 2014, 04:57 PM   #58
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Although my first-watch marathon was finished last year, I've been continuing on with the 'reboot' series as a sort of second-watch refresher, and posting my opinions of each episode in the same fashion, but newly equipped with knowledge of the classic series that I never had last time. I was hoping to be finished before the start of season 8, but that's not going to happen now.

Anyway, I'm currently knees-deep into "season 5" (or season 31, if you prefer!), having most recently watched Vincent and the Doctor. Thanks to anyone who's still following. This has been an epic journey.

Recent highlights:
Human Nature / The Family of Blood
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Old August 8 2014, 02:11 PM   #59
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It was a big deal to those Daleks, as it happened in their home time. Probably. Causing the Time War (probably). Which rewrote a lot of history (probably...).
According to RTD it was Genesis Of The Daleks that started the Time War.
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Old August 9 2014, 02:09 AM   #60
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I never really liked the version of Skaro's history created in "Genesis of the Daleks", I sort of preferred the simpler and less obvious introduction to the Daleks and Thals, even if it is just a variant of the Morlocks and Eloi from the "Time Machine".
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