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Old August 12 2013, 06:57 PM   #16
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... The second Death Star was still being build, so it was quite stationary. On the other hand, if I allow this, would it open the door to other starships being build? Quite the slippery slope. I'll take it under advisement and give my ruling tomorrow. Ancient Mariner, you may want to prepare a back-up entry.
The Emperor said the second Death Star was fully operational, and it still didn't go anywhere. And with the shield bein' generated by a source on the Endor moon's surface, I'd say it couldn't go anywhere.

And, while ya can speculate that at some point, they may have thrown an engine & shield generator on the damn thing and gone somewhere, they didn't. It got blowed up just like the first.

Meanwhile, no one seems to have a problem with Deep Space Nine, even though it totally changed locations from Bajor's orbit to the wormhole in the pilot episode. It didn't go anywhere after that, but it did move, under its own power, from one location to another onscreen.
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Old August 12 2013, 08:45 PM   #18
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Now, here's a debate. The thing is, the first Death Star showed that it was not stationary. Why it was called a space station in the movie, I don't know, but for all intents and purposes, it was an admittedly huge starship.
Probably because the Death Star was originally supposed to be just the Imperial ultimate weapon, basically a planet-killing self-propelled space gun. All the princess-rescue stuff happened in the prisons of the Imperial cloud city on another planet (Alderaan, at that point). When they found they wouldn't be able to do all that they moved that action to the Death Star. My guess is they didn't know what to call it then, since it had prisons and Imperial higher-up conferences and all that, so they went with "battle station."

You're right, though, it's essentially a huge FTL spaceship ("Set your course for Alderaan"), and the ROTJ version will apparently be just as mobile once completed.
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... The second Death Star was still being build, so it was quite stationary. On the other hand, if I allow this, would it open the door to other starships being build? Quite the slippery slope. I'll take it under advisement and give my ruling tomorrow. Ancient Mariner, you may want to prepare a back-up entry.
The Emperor said the second Death Star was fully operational, and it still didn't go anywhere. And with the shield bein' generated by a source on the Endor moon's surface, I'd say it couldn't go anywhere.

And, while ya can speculate that at some point, they may have thrown an engine & shield generator on the damn thing and gone somewhere, they didn't. It got blowed up just like the first.

Meanwhile, no one seems to have a problem with Deep Space Nine, even though it totally changed locations from Bajor's orbit to the wormhole in the pilot episode. It didn't go anywhere after that, but it did move, under its own power, from one location to another onscreen.
Yea, since the Death Star (And Stargate) were allowed in, I didn't want to bring DS9 up, but, most definitely, of the 3, it has the biggest question mark.
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I'm amazed we haven't seen this yet!

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Old August 13 2013, 05:03 PM   #21
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RE: Death Star. Since it is the second Death Star, which never went out of orbit of Endor due to the deflector shield projected from Endor's surface, I'll allow it. But for the record, this does not mean that starships under construction, like the Abramsprise being build on earth from STAR TREK '09, have any chance of being allowed. This goes only to this one particular case, and od0_ital made the argument based on the deflector shield, and this was what made my decision.

Anyway, I think there're still a few possible entries. Planetary buildings are a bit underrepresented right now.
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Old August 16 2013, 05:13 PM   #23
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Okay, I'll give some more time for entries, poll goes up on Sunday (mid-european time). I sure would like to see some more entries, especially buildings. There're so many good choices, like the Daily Planet building, Xanatos Towers, Hogwarts, etc..
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Old August 18 2013, 10:23 AM   #25
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Okay, last call, the poll goes up in two hours, give or take.
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Old August 18 2013, 12:44 PM   #26
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Poll's up!

And since nobody entered those, I thought I'd just make them for fun.
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