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Old August 16 2013, 07:14 AM   #226
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Re: The Single Worst Line of Dialogue in the entire Star Trek Franchis

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I think I'll go with Janeway's speech at the end of "Alliances". I think that was Janeway at her soapbox-iest. Essentially, they've gone right back to where they were at the start of the episode: under constant attack by the Kazon, losing crewmen here and there, no allies to speak of, and we have Janeway saying Starfleet rules are the best allies they can have.

Um, no, they're not. Actual allies, like the Talaxians in "Basics", and the aliens in "Year of Hell" and "The Void" are the best allies you can have.
Well, they tried their best. They saved the Kazon leaders from the Trabe assassins, and the Kazon weren't grateful in the least. They were never going to get a good alliance out of them.
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Old August 16 2013, 08:46 AM   #227
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The Kazon's idea of an allaince would be. "You give us everything we want and we may let you live"
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Old August 16 2013, 05:38 PM   #228
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Worset line ever:

Kira: I wouldn't beleive him if he told me water was wet.


This one hurts just reading it!
Mentioning water being wet is a common English idiom. Usually meaning this is true, real or not worthy of comment. Coupled with "I wouldn't believe him" flips that to show the character is a known liar. A common variation is "the sky is blue", but that does quite work in a multi-planetary setting.
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Old August 16 2013, 11:25 PM   #229
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"Perhaps I should."

Spoken by Archer at the end of 'Broken Bow'. Delivered in an awful way about his own bigotry. Every time I hear it I wince, even something as simple as that showed that he was a terrible speaker.
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Old August 17 2013, 12:33 AM   #230
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That speech in Alliances was way too on the nose, but I don't think the problem is the content.

The whole concept of Star Trek is that they don't put their survival before their principles. Allying with the Kazon would have meant enabling them to murder and enslave people. In The Void when one of their allies kept on acting like a pirate they were kicked out of the alliance. So sure, alliances would be great, but an alliance with the Kazon isn't worth the moral consequences.
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Old August 22 2013, 10:24 PM   #231
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"It's life, Jim, but not as we know it." - Mr Spock in every episode
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Old August 22 2013, 10:56 PM   #232
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^ Spock never said that, not once. It comes from the "Star Trekkin" parody song. It's one of those things like "Just the facts, ma'am" with Dragnet or even "Beam me up, Scotty" from Trek that never was actually sad.
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Old August 23 2013, 02:18 AM   #233
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That speech in Alliances was way too on the nose, but I don't think the problem is the content.

The whole concept of Star Trek is that they don't put their survival before their principles. Allying with the Kazon would have meant enabling them to murder and enslave people. In The Void when one of their allies kept on acting like a pirate they were kicked out of the alliance. So sure, alliances would be great, but an alliance with the Kazon isn't worth the moral consequences.
Watch that speech just before you watch her reasoning for allying with the Borg in Scorpion. Oh the irony.
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Old August 23 2013, 04:00 AM   #234
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Well, given the alternative was the destruction of our Galaxy...
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Old August 23 2013, 04:11 AM   #235
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Most people don't object to Warp 10 being the hard limit. Most people object to Warp 10 making you be everywhere at once. And the lizard thing.
I never saw the problem with the Warp 10 being everywhere. I mean, if you are travelling at infinite speed, then it will take you literally zero time to go from here to there. And if you are here and then there zero time later, then you are there at the same time you are here. You're in two places at once. And if it works for two places, why not three, or four, or ALL the places?

Mutant salamanders though, that was crap.
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Old August 23 2013, 04:15 AM   #236
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Well, given the alternative was the destruction of our Galaxy...
Hate to tell it to you, but Voyager provoked them just as much as the Borg. Their first encounter with 8472 was them barging onto one of their ships as if they had every right to be there. Then they tried tractoring it, and beaming it away.

Their next encounter with Voyager, they're obviously collaborating with the enemy that invaded them. It's only then the "your galaxy will be purged" bit came. Which is a dubious and vague comment. Then they invade their realm... using weapons of mass destruction based on Borg technology. That's when they decided to target the Federation. And if they're all that evil, why was Janeway able to talk them down easy enough? They probably would've stopped at the Borg and gone back to swimming in their green goo absent Voyager.
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Old August 23 2013, 06:17 AM   #237
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^ Spock never said that, not once. It comes from the "Star Trekkin" parody song. It's one of those things like "Just the facts, ma'am" with Dragnet or even "Beam me up, Scotty" from Trek that never was actually sad.
And "Luke, I am your father".

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I think I'll go with Janeway's speech at the end of "Alliances". I think that was Janeway at her soapbox-iest. Essentially, they've gone right back to where they were at the start of the episode: under constant attack by the Kazon, losing crewmen here and there, no allies to speak of, and we have Janeway saying Starfleet rules are the best allies they can have.

Um, no, they're not. Actual allies, like the Talaxians in "Basics", and the aliens in "Year of Hell" and "The Void" are the best allies you can have.
Well, they tried their best. They saved the Kazon leaders from the Trabe assassins, and the Kazon weren't grateful in the least. They were never going to get a good alliance out of them.
Yes, the Trabe proved to be untrustworthy, but there's absolutely nothing in the episodes that justifies this whole extolling the virtues of Starfleet rules at the end.

Starfleet rules didn't prevent them from aligning with the Trabe and Starfleet rules didn't help them out of any particular jam they found themselves in.
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Old August 23 2013, 06:33 AM   #238
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In the Dixon Hill episode Picard says
"Step on it"
With the bad accent and everything
How is that a bad line ? It's a joke.
I love that line. I slap my dad on the shoulder when we watch this episode all like "here it comes! Bahahaha!"
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Old August 23 2013, 06:35 AM   #239
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And I love that movie.
Well, dude, you read my mind. Not only is it out of character, but it's out of place. A better line would have been for him to be silently shaking with anger, if he had to be that emotional at all. It was a great tear-jerking scene until this happened.
This too. And I liked that movie. It just seemed... unneccessary.

"I'm with Starfleet, we don't lie." ...is probably my overall choice.

The Borg Queen's "Was that good for you?" was pretty stupid, too.
I laughed way too hard in the theater when Spock yelled that. I just couldn't help it.
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Old August 23 2013, 07:55 AM   #240
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After following this thread for 16 pages and 240 posts, I think one thing is clear: It´s really not easy to name the "one worst line of dialogue"! As all the examples here show, there are just way too much badly written or delivered, silly, redundant or outright stupid lines to be able to pick just one
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