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Old August 16 2013, 08:47 PM   #1
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Reoccurring Trek Stories

Hey!

So I watch a lot of Start Trek I mean a lot! So after many many years of watching everything, I've noticed that the same stories keep popping up. They start in TOS and go onward. They are:

The Time Travling Episode:

The crew goes back in time to fix something that has messed up their time and int he process they befriend a local who helps them. Hilarity insues when the charactors are put in a then current time back drop.

The Court Marshall Episode:

The main characters have to defend a one another from an attempt to destory the life or carrer of one of the crew members.

The Time Repeating Episode:

Two or more crew members get sucked into an anomly or other time looping causality and they have to figure out how to get out!

The Repentence Episode:

A person or memeber of a race that has wronged a crew member must face up to what they do and try to heal the damage done.

I alwas get a kick out of how the writers figure out how to re use these stories but change them up, most times it works...most times.

There are a bunch more but I'm drawing a blank, help me out here!

I know you guys have noticed this right?
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Old August 16 2013, 09:00 PM   #2
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Re: Reoccurring Trek Stories

Not really.
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Old August 16 2013, 09:19 PM   #3
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. . .I've noticed that the same stories keep popping up. They start in TOS and go onward. . .
. . .The Time Repeating Episode:
Two or more crew members get sucked into an anomly or other time looping finonina and they have to figure out how to get out!
I don't remember this ever happening in TOS, unless you're somehow including "The City on the Edge of Forever" in this category.

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Do you mean the word "phenomena"?
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Old August 16 2013, 10:17 PM   #4
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. . .I've noticed that the same stories keep popping up. They start in TOS and go onward. . .
. . .The Time Repeating Episode:
Two or more crew members get sucked into an anomly or other time looping finonina and they have to figure out how to get out!
I don't remember this ever happening in TOS, unless you're somehow including "The City on the Edge of Forever" in this category.

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Do you mean the word "phenomena"?

Yeah you are right, I think this story starts in TNG with the Typhon Expanse in "Cause and Effect". There's a Voyager episode with Chakotay and Janeway on a shuttle mission that's pretty much the same episode!

Yes I meant phenomena, I just missed that typo!

Lol...
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Old August 16 2013, 10:31 PM   #5
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I think the timeloop plots actually begin with TNG: We'll Always Have Paris, in its first season. There are several scenes with repeating occurrences. I recently watched ENT: Future Tense, and it has similar moments.
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Old August 16 2013, 10:32 PM   #6
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Many themes in story telling get often repeated. I don't mind as long as it is executed well.
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Old August 16 2013, 10:36 PM   #7
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Legal proceedings and repentance are staples of many TV dramas, although they can take on different meaning with Trek.
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Old August 16 2013, 10:43 PM   #8
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Isn't there only something like 7 basic plots in storytelling. Sure you can mix and match but its all variations on the same theme(s).
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Old August 16 2013, 11:01 PM   #9
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I used to have a writing book from Writer's Digest that covered 24 different plots, some dating to the Greeks. As some of them dealt with the gods and mortals, only about a dozen are usually used in today's contemporary dramas.
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Old August 16 2013, 11:19 PM   #10
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You forgot the VOY staple:
- Seven causes a problem/situation for the rest of the crew,
- Seven resolves a problem/situation for the rest of the crew,
- Seven "learns" something about humanity from Janeway/EMH,
- A combination of either two/all three of these elements.

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Old August 17 2013, 01:59 AM   #11
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Isn't there only something like 7 basic plots in storytelling. Sure you can mix and match but its all variations on the same theme(s).
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I used to have a writing book from Writer's Digest that covered 24 different plots, some dating to the Greeks. As some of them dealt with the gods and mortals, only about a dozen are usually used in today's contemporary dramas.

Where do you find these sources????

These specificly, I know where to find the in general...
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Old August 17 2013, 06:29 AM   #12
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Bry_Sinclair wrote: View Post
You forgot the VOY staple:
- Seven causes a problem/situation for the rest of the crew,
- Seven resolves a problem/situation for the rest of the crew,
- Seven "learns" something about humanity from Janeway/EMH,
- A combination of either two/all three of these elements.

And then from TNG:

- Worf recommends a intelligent course of action ... which Picard immediately ignores.
- Troi states a observation ... which is blindingly obvious.

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Old August 17 2013, 06:41 AM   #13
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jazzstick wrote: View Post
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Isn't there only something like 7 basic plots in storytelling. Sure you can mix and match but its all variations on the same theme(s).
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I used to have a writing book from Writer's Digest that covered 24 different plots, some dating to the Greeks. As some of them dealt with the gods and mortals, only about a dozen are usually used in today's contemporary dramas.

Where do you find these sources????

These specificly, I know where to find the in general...
Well in my case, it was a book I once owned. But just do a Google search (or whatever search engine you choose) for 'basic plots', and you'll get about 35 million results.
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Old August 17 2013, 08:08 AM   #14
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Depends on how general you want to get.
Excluding DS9 for a moment, I have one plot.

A. Crew encounter alien/bad Earthperson
B. Alien/bad Earthperson causes trouble for crew
C. Crew solves problem/rectify situation and lose 0 or more crewman/crewwomen
D. Crew goes on their merry way - others may suffer but meh we don't really know them
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Old August 18 2013, 04:47 AM   #15
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I do believe the TNG episode "The Offspring" and the DS9 episode "The Begotten" tell the same story in different ways, and they're both great episodes. (And I admit I always cry when Lal and Data are saying goodbye because FEELS!)
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