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The Next Generation All Good Things come to an end...but not here.

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Old August 15 2013, 05:35 PM   #1
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where no one has gone before?!?!

Watching this old old old episode and it will take them 300 years at maximum warp to return home.. there 3 galaxies away.. but will take voyager 70 years to return from the other side of the galaxy?!? enterprise with older engine designs is 9 times faster then voyager? wow!! lol I know I know old episode comparing to new but still kind of funny
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Old August 15 2013, 05:46 PM   #2
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Re: where no one has gone before?!?!

Star Trek has never been consistent with warp drive and the time it takes to travel. In TOS' That Which Survives, the Enterprise is thrown nearly 1,000 light years, but is able to warp back to the planet in a matter of hours or days.

I don't think it was until Voyager that they decided 70,000 light years = 70 years. Earlier in The Price, Picard mentioned 80 years to reach the Gamma Quadrant.
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Old August 15 2013, 05:56 PM   #3
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They also passed warp 10 which in Voyager is infinity speed and reaching it turns you into a hyper evolved salamander* but they did it all the time in TOS like it was no biggie...






*yes, this actually happened.
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Old August 15 2013, 05:58 PM   #4
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Re: where no one has gone before?!?!

So very true lol ah sci fi gotta love it
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Old August 15 2013, 08:20 PM   #5
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Re: where no one has gone before?!?!

Of course, a big ship being nine times faster than a small one isn't really that much of a whopper. Heck, it was an unyielding fact back in the days of sailing!

It might also be slower going when you have to swerve past all those pesky stars within a galaxy, compared with the smooth vistas outside galaxies.

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Old August 15 2013, 09:18 PM   #6
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The Warp 10 thing is duuuuuuumb.

Threshold is the patron saint of suck. It comes along and absolves episodes like Spock's Brain, And The Children Shall Lead, Let He Who Is Without Sin, and The Outrageous Okona of all their sins, it's that bad.
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Old August 15 2013, 09:27 PM   #7
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jimbotron wrote: View Post
. . .Threshold is the patron saint of suck. . .
All this time I thought Enterprise and the JJ-verse were the suckmeisters around here.
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Old August 15 2013, 09:32 PM   #8
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The only thing consistent about warp speed is that it is inconsistent.
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Old August 16 2013, 01:00 AM   #9
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Your forgot to factor in the plot dependency equation into the warp speed formula.
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Old August 16 2013, 01:56 AM   #10
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Re: where no one has gone before?!?!

In TOS it seems like they were all over the entire Galaxy. It wasn't until TNG did they make it seem like only a small portion of the Galaxy had been explored.
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Old August 16 2013, 03:14 AM   #11
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Re: where no one has gone before?!?!

To go with the Voyager speeds it should have taken the Enterprise 3000 years to get home from Galaxy M33, although since they would need to refill on Deuterium and Crystals and stuff, they wouldn't make it very far.
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Old August 16 2013, 06:03 AM   #12
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Gojira wrote: View Post
In TOS it seems like they were all over the entire Galaxy. It wasn't until TNG did they make it seem like only a small portion of the Galaxy had been explored.
In TFF, the Ent-A goes from Earth to the center of the galaxy and back in a matter of days. The original Ent does the same in The Magicks of Megas-Tu.
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Old August 16 2013, 11:29 AM   #13
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Re: where no one has gone before?!?!

Let's make a rough estimate here... Andromeda is approximately 2.5 million light-years from us. Let's triple that as a rough guess -- let's say 8 million light-years -- if the E-D is three galaxies away. That's over 26,000 light-years per year. That'd make Voyager's trip only 3 years. That's also 73 light-years per day. So one could get to Vulcan (16 lys from Earth) in just 5 hours.
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Old August 16 2013, 11:58 AM   #14
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Look, subspace in the Delta Quadrant has a different density than in the Alpha Quadrant. It can't be warped that easily. That's why ships are slower even at the maximum warp factor their engines can achieve.
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Old August 16 2013, 02:37 PM   #15
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We don't know how far away the Enterprise is, though.
3 galaxies away can mean anything.
If I say I'm 3 countries away in Europe, that's, what, a day of driving in a car?
Now say that in North America.
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