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Old August 15 2013, 05:55 AM   #256
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TALL MEN WITH FEELINGS... conclusion!

One last try after lunch.

Computer voice: (OC) An inmate at Litchfield Correctional is trying to contact you, please press 1 to accept the call.

Larry: (OC) So, what did you think?
Piper: How did you know?
Larry: Know what, Piper?
Piper: (OC) I know that you know.
Larry: I want to hear you say it. Tell me you had sex with her.
Piper: Please don't do this.
Larry: (OC) Are you STILL having sex with her?
Piper: Yes.

Larry tells her Healy called him to say she went to the SHU for Lesbian activity, and Piper assumes he's trying to get back at her by inciting her fellow inmates to kill her with his on air radio comments.

The arguing goes back and forth between indignant lovers under significant stresses who haven't spoken in "over a week", when finally the imprisoned Piper cries out to the cukold fiance.

Piper: Do you have any idea what its been like for me in here? How lonely I've been?
Larry: You've, you've been lonely? Huh? Cause I find that interesting... I just ASSUMED you were okay because you have ALEX now. Do you love her?
Piper: No... that's its..It's difficult.
Larry: (voice cracks)Do you love her?
Piper: (voice cracks) Yes.

Larry cries silently, on a New York sidewalk in early December, until he realizes that misery LOVES company, and the old testament allows for "an eye for an eye"... a heart for a heart.

Larry: She named you, you know. She's the whole FUCKING REASON you're in there.

(We watch Piper go into shock at the phone bank)

Larry: How's it FEEL to be in LOVE with the woman who RUINED our lives?
Piper: You lied to me.
Larry: I guess that makes us perfect for each other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6i9qKy6cbs




Piper wants to try and "fix this"... But Larry doubts she can. He then tells her he need some time "away" from the situation...and he disconnects the call.

We hear the dial tone from Piper's receiver as she looks devastated... and in case you've forgotten, the camera shows us a shot THROUGH the prison bars at our Blonde Angst magnet as the theme music plays and the orange screen comes up.
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Old August 15 2013, 01:09 PM   #257
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Yes... I know in the last 18 hours there have been some quite frightening RUMORS going around about season 2... and I'm going to float down that "river in Egypt" until I hear something definitive.

Until then...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU5gu3lr3Ls

for your viewing enjoyment...



Oh, the last question on the 12 min las vegas clip with KM & RB was about Red!
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Old August 15 2013, 02:05 PM   #258
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Forget "last question"....

Here's 12 minutes of Kate talking about Red!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNrghhJAkCk



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Old August 15 2013, 02:09 PM   #259
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Am I the only one not in love with Firefly? Serenity the Movie was pretty good but the series never really got me. I think it was too much of a western for my taste

Did you watch it on TV or the DVD's?

If you hate westerns, it won't make a difference, but the way Fox presented it on TV was so backwards that it didn't make sense for the first 6 eps. (IMO)
we watched it on DVD, we had heard that the tv airings were all screwed up so we knew to get the dvds
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Old August 15 2013, 04:21 PM   #260
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NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Orange Is the New Black: Laura Prepon Not Returning As Series Regular - Yahoo! OMG! CA
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Old August 15 2013, 05:00 PM   #261
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Yes... I know in the last 18 hours there have been some quite frightening RUMORS going around about season 2... and I'm going to float down that "river in Egypt" until I hear something definitive.

http://www.eonline.com/news/449063/o...e-says-netflix

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Old August 15 2013, 05:10 PM   #262
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Yes... I know in the last 18 hours there have been some quite frightening RUMORS going around about season 2... and I'm going to float down that "river in Egypt" until I hear something definitive.

http://www.eonline.com/news/449063/o...e-says-netflix

Think positively!
****Relaxes a bit**** Don't you just love the interwebs sometimes.
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Old August 15 2013, 10:20 PM   #263
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The problem with searching for news on this, is that ALMOST every new "item" is just some other news-outlet repeating the Buzzfeed story, often verbatim.

If anyone here follows the twitter feeds of the cast that supposedly happens every thursday night, please enlighten us if (???) / WHEN (!!!) the subject comes up.
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Old August 16 2013, 12:47 AM   #264
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I like this article's reasoning why Alex Vause needs to "stay" on OitNB, if JUST for the idea that Alex provides "50 shades of Orange" to the show.

http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollyw...e-laura-prepon

Another article wondering about the motivations of the recent trauma... Naturally, I prefer option #1.

http://www.vulture.com/2013/08/laura...new-black.html

The real Piper, lamenting the conversion of the main Danbury prison to a male only facility, and the effect on women who will be moved to Alabama and beyond.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/14/op...ence.html?_r=2&
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Old August 16 2013, 10:30 AM   #265
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I'm totally meh about Vause. I see she's a tumblr sensation, *yawn*. I like everyone else better than her.

(I've bookmarked the start of the epic TMWF review btw, just so you know I really am coming back to read it all..)
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Old August 16 2013, 10:22 PM   #266
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I see Vause as the brick wall Piper has to slam her head against.

She's an in your face reminder about her crime and why she committed it. Not because she was hungry or homeless or drug addicted and needed her next fix.

Piper broke the law because her lover asked her to do so.

Without Alex around, I think it would be easier for Piper to rationalize it away as "youthful indiscretion" etc, something not "her" fault.

But Alex is a living breathing reminder that while she personally only committed one crime, Piper enjoyed the fruits of the drug trade for (?) 2 years before finally bailing on the relationship.

Alex is also a wonderful bookend to Larry (dangerous vs nebbish) and quite frankly unless one or both grows up/matures, neither is a good match for the woman who's drawn us into this world. (Presuming, of course, that PIPER grows up.)

Here's a great article with LP that was conducted just before the current internet wailing/gnashing of teeth over her future with OitNB.

http://www.vulture.com/2013/08/laura...=twitter_nymag

See, TV guide agrees with me. Kind of.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Orange-N...x-1069258.aspx
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Old August 17 2013, 06:44 AM   #267
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SPOILERS

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Episode #12 "FOOL ME ONCE"



Its like 3 am... and if Fig is to be believed, its about 2 weeks after Tricia's hanging, Larry's radio program about Piper and of course, the lovers cellphone breakup.



Piper is making her way through the corridors to the bathroom, mop & bucket at the ready. Its quiet and due to curfew she doesn't expect to find anyone in the bathroom... so naturally we are surprised to find Suzanne mopping her way through cell block E's "facilities".

Piper: Did you get in trouble too?

That's kind of a rude assumption to make, considering we all know that Suzanne's usual job at the prison is janitorial.

Suzanne quickly sets her straight.

Suzanne: Sometimes the feelings inside me get messy like dirt. And I like to clean things. Pretend the dirt is the feelings. This floor is my mind. THAT is called "coping".

Piper tries to apologize for what Larry said on the radio, then tries to minimize what he said, and finally tries to excuse them by claiming that she told Larry those things before she knew who Suzanne truly was.

Crazy Eyes is having nothing to do with this "apology".

Suzanne: Its okay Dandelion, you know why? I used to spend a lot of time thinking HOW I could make you love me. (What an interesting list) Like... if I had long pretty hair, or if I made you a chocolate cake with frosting, or... If I had a green bicycle.
Piper: No... you are great the way you are.
Suzanne: I KNOW. Because, the answer is, you are not a nice person....

Piper: (After the quiet tirade ends) I'm not mean. (Oh really Piper, care to rethink that comment?) ...I didn't mean, to be mean, to you.
Suzanne: (Is she still talking about mopping the floor clean... or scouring Piper's soul clean?) You've got to start from the inside out, or else you'll step on the clean.

When Piper finally leaves her bathroom job, she runs into a familiar face.

Piper: (To Alex) Look at you... waking up for "crack of dawn I Told You So." That's dedication.
Alex: I have to pee. But as long as I'm here, how's that "spontaneous confession" treating you?
Piper: Shittier than I thought... which is impressive considering I'm literally scrubbing toilets.
Alex: You are sucking all the joy out of my gloat.

After two weeks, Alex finally corners Piper on what happened with "the fiancÚ".

Piper: I accused him of feeding on my misfortune with the sensitivity of a vampire squid (Is there really such a thing?) and he (Piper points briefly at Alex) accused me of betraying him in a disgusting but totally predictable manner. So... we're in a good place.

(Alex sighs... she plays "sympathetic friend oh so well, when she wants to)

Alex: I'm sorry Pipes.

(Oh, what a good opening for the woman torn between two lovers.)

Piper: And that was before he told me that his father, AKA my lawyer, (she glances away briefly) looked at the records and found out that it was you who ratted me out to the Feds.

Uh-oh.

Remember this scene, from episode 3?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is-F6u7EroU




Alex: (Looks stunned at Piper's calm revelation) Fuck.
Piper: Don't worry about it. I mean, fool me once... right?
Alex: Okay, listen, (Looks down to gather her argument)
Piper: Alex! I'm over it. (Alex looks into her eyes) Really. Its fine.

Piper surprises the drug dealer by moving in to leave a quick peck on Alex's cheek, then walking quietly away.

One wonders where Piper's attitude comes from at this point. Was it partially due to the dressing down she just received from Suzanne at the beginning of her shift, or as Alex is already suspecting while Piper walks away, is it due to the fact Larry jettisoned his fiancÚ and Piper is so lonely she'll now accept a previously unacceptable idea.

That her lover has betrayed her.
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Old August 18 2013, 03:35 AM   #268
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FOOL ME ONCE... continues

We get to see snippets of ancillary characters this "week".

One of my fav's has become Sister Ingalls. Our political prisoner is caught trying to smuggle a muffin out of breakfast. Lucky for her, the guard that caught her was Fischer (the girl who used to bag Piper's groceries) and Fischer let her off with a wink.

Unlucky for Fischer, she was observed by Caputo who would call her on it the next day. Unlucky for the kid because Caputo offers to become her "mentor", to teach her to be tougher with the "inmates", but its obvious he has other ideas in mind for this guard. "You're a woman... I'm a man." DO guys think this is appropriate language for a work environment?

We'll see Sister Ingalls again later, as she tries to teach Piper how to knit a blanket and eventually critiques Piper's attempt at public prayer.

Trust me, it was sweet.

Watson comes to the fore again this week. For some reason, she went to the common room for the yoga class... but it was canceled for the day and probably the week. It was weird later when she ran into Yoga Jones decorating the TV room for the holidays and she brought up the canceled class. Weird because when I first saw this ep, I had forgotten these two women have a history.

Remember when Watson got out of the SHU and went crazy one night, exercising in the dorm and keeping all the other ladies in the ghetto awake?

For reasons we don't understand, Yoga Jones appears and tries to calm Watson down. Watson refuses to calm, and tries to goad the older white woman by guessing what crime landed her in jail. She first accuses her of possible pedophilia, but gets no response. Then she correctly guesses that Yoga Jones killed a kid.

POW!!!!

That got a definite response, as the older woman dropped Namaste and instead went Rocky Balboa on Watson's chin, knocking her back.

That was weeks ago and Watson looks uneasy when she comes into the TV room to reconnect a VCR.

Uneasy because the young woman is on a mission... to get Yoga Jones to talk.

Watson started with the canceled yoga classes and laughed when Jones said she was taking a break, "I thought yoga WAS a break."

When Yoga Jones admitted she couldn't concentrate on yoga since she punched Watson, the young woman convinced her to tell the tale of her crime.

Yoga spun it out initially, with plenty of self deprecating comments along the way. Bottom line, she was raising marijuana to pay her rent and her bar bill. Deer kept grazing on her cash crop and she bought a hunting rifle to deal with the problem. One night, while drunk, she shot at a rustling in her premium weed patch.

But it wasn't a deer.

It was an 8 year old boy from a neighboring farm who had just run away because his dad took away his Nintendo. As Yoga tells Watson, "They buried him in a box on their farm." Officer Fischer arrives to put an end to unauthorized socializing during work hours between the "inmates". (Damn that Caputo and his "mentoring") Lucky for Fischer, Yoga Jones wasn't in a punching mood, she was in a cathartic crying mood, "It was a MISTAKE!" and Watson just growled, "We're having a MOMENT here..." which caused our tenderhearted guard to apologize, back down and leave the room as quick as she came.

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FOOL ME ONCE... continues



Daya and Gloria are eating in the cafeteria. Actually, Gloria is eating while chastising the possibly pregnant one to eat. Pornstache is watching and comes over to whisper sweet nothings in Daya's ear... ABOUT Daya's ears. "Tia" Gloria kicks her under the table to make her participate in the flirtation. That kick was the second best thing about that scene... the first was the formidable redhead watching it with undisguised interest. As Morello gazes out the window while prattling on about mimosas, Red simply says, "I'm going to need you to do something for me." and she had Lorna's COMPLETE attention.

When next we see our sweet Lorna, she's orchestrating a "sting" in the common room. First she alerts Gloria to delay Caputo as he tries to leave, with a wonderful tale about her foot fungus and why she wants him to send Crazy Eyes to the "lite brown" showers since she does such a good job in the ghetto. (This sequence is one of the reasons Gloria has become my fav among the Latinas) She keeps an eye on Lorna who is watching Gina outside the utility closet. Lorna has her stretch out the complaints until the RIGHT moment and then Gloria wraps it up and sends Caputo on to his next prisoner interaction.

Lorna: Mr Caputo, I think I heard someone crying in the utility closet.
Caputo: (sarcastically) Well, we can't have that, can we?

After reminding him the girls were upset after Tricia's death and were at risk of killing themselves after every period, she maneuvers him towards the closet.

Lorna: I'd do it myself but I have such empathy...
Caputo: If I'm not home in my massage chair holding a glass of wild turkey in 25 minutes, I'm holding YOU responsible.

Guess who didn't get home in 25 minutes, and technically it was Pornstache not Morello who was responsible since he was the one having sex with Daya in the closet.

Were those garters he was wearing to keep his socks up/shirt tail down?

ETA : Hmmm, this posted without me hitting the button, is the DOC monitoring me????
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"FOOL ME ONCE"... continues

Its the next day and Assist Warden Natalie Fig? is yelling at Caputo for the newest scandal. After the suicide "2 weeks ago" and the maple syrup "incident" before that (we never did hear what that was about), she predicts CO/Inmate sex in the closet will "kill" the warden.

She also is CLEAR that she doesn't want to see the word "rape" on the report as she predicts this was consensual and probably a scam to get released from the prison with a taxpayer stipend. Fig doesn't even acknowledge Caputo when he reminds her there's no such thing as "consent" in prison/CO sex, as she tells him to suspend Mendez while she works things out with the warden.

The fun thing about this scene was watching Caputo try not to get excited when Fig sat near him, on his desk, (Remember his speech to Fischer... "You're a woman...I'm a man...") and then watching him throw his sharpened pencil at the closed door when she left.

The OTHER fun thing was watching her answer a phone call from a reporter as she makes her way to the parking lot. He'd caught the NPR segment with Larry Bloom and had questions about all the closed programs (The Track, The GED program, switching drugs to generics) given the fact that in the last 5 years... the Feds had actually INCREASED Litchfield's budget by 2.3 MILLION dollars.

Fig looks like she's going to collapse against the side of her Mercedes Benz after she hurriedly ends the call.

The prison let Mendez back in to collect the stuff from his locker. We watch him walk out with the box, looking quite morose. As he's walking by the NEPTUNE'S PRODUCE van, he sees Red monitoring its unloading.

She looks at him.

He looks at her as he walks by.

She winks.

And you can read his mind! "F*CK!"

Fig & Mendez aren't the only ones unhappy with this situation.

Bennett is quite solicitous with Daya when he catches up with her, until he discovers she lured Mendez into having sex to "protect" Bennett's job/freedom when her pregnancy was discovered.

Bennett: (disgusted) Who ARE you?

Uh, the person who told you she'd take care of it, when you whined a couple days ago about losing your job and going to jail?

Talk about disgusted, Bennett wasn't very happy when he met with Mendez in the bar that night. Pornstache has "2" agendas. He wants "Benny" to get a message to the love of his life (?) and he want's to give a "win" to his main man by giving him info on drugs coming into the prison. It seems Mendez has discovered RED is importing / distributing the drugs. Mendez was going to be the hero and bust the operation open... but since he's suspended, he's letting Bennett do the honors.

I wonder what Bennett thinks after Caputo KISSES him for bringing the bag of drugs into his office. "Geez, I've been kissed by more guys here in the last 2 weeks than I was during my 12 months in Afghanistan."

Bennett is sent to find Red.

Guess what, she's NOT in the kitchen.

She's in Healy's office, leaning against his desk like she owns it, as she counsels the married couple sitting before her... Sam Healy and his Russian wife.

I guess it helps that your kitchen is run by a Russian, if you happen to marry a mail order Russian bride.

Howled when she told him to "go get a pedicure".

Nearly cried when Bennett came to collect her and she leaned over Healy to say...

Red: If it goes bad, take care of my girls.
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